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January 12, 2017
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why is there a limit of 1 inch bleed in illustrator? I need more.

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I need more than 1" (25.4mm) bleed in Illustrator. I'm working at 25% scale and need 30mm bleed all round for large format printing. Is something going to be done about this?

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Correct answer Neeraj Nandkeolyar

This information little bit old, but still posting a reply as there is activity on the topic. Bleed values in Adobe Illustrator 2020 (and above) can now be set up to 24inches (in all places).

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Neeraj NandkeolyarCorrect answer
Adobe Employee
January 14, 2021

This information little bit old, but still posting a reply as there is activity on the topic. Bleed values in Adobe Illustrator 2020 (and above) can now be set up to 24inches (in all places).

Participant
September 12, 2023

Hi Neeraj, my Illustrator 2020 will not let me go above 1" for a bleed, where can I change this to allow 2" as you mentioned above?  Thanks

Adobe Employee
September 12, 2023

Bleed settings can be assigned at the time of new document creation, or from File > Document Setup, after the document has been created. Sorry to hear it is not working for you. Please report this issue at: https://illustrator.uservoice.com

 

Thanks!

Participant
May 30, 2018

Just change the damn limit. Everyone knows the workarounds, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!!

Monika Gause
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May 30, 2018

jp-npd  schrieb

Just change the damn limit. Everyone knows the workarounds, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!!

Please post to http://illustrator.uservoice.com

95% of users in this forum are not staff, let alone engineers. It doesn't make any sense at all to shout at us.

Participant
May 31, 2018

No one is shouting at or blaming anyone in this forum.  We're just venting and pointing out the obvious about this "issue" in Illustrator.

Thanks for the link though!

Participant
February 14, 2018

Save as an EPS and then create a PDF of the file in Acrobat.

Participating Frequently
May 4, 2017

I think a lot of you guys are missing the point. Why the heck is the there a limitation to the bleed size anyways? I mean, I can get them putting like a 20 inch restriction on it or something like that, but ONE INCH?? 2 inches isn't exactly extreme. This seems to come down to two things: 1) Laziness--I'm not a programmer, but I have a basic understanding of how it works and don't understand how it could exactly require days of additional time from the programmers to fix this. At best, it would have taken a few seconds to fix before the recent version went out--at worst, a few hours. 2) The Illustrator team's recent approach to dictating how everyone SHOULD use the program. The first time I really noticed this is when they changed how the "Ctrl" + "+/-" for zooming worked. It had been one way for the 13+ years I've been using Illustrator and they changed it to "zoom to selection"...for no reason at all other than, what I can guess, is that the team working on it uses a different method personally to zoom in and they figured they could jack with it cause everyone else must do it the same way as them. So in the same manner, they figured "Ah....most print materials require a 1/8th" bleed and we never work on anything larger than that, so who needs more than an inch?" I think it's their disconnect with the working world that actually uses these programs for SOOO many things.

Monika Gause
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 4, 2017

Promofuse  schrieb

I think a lot of you guys are missing the point...

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I'm not a programmer, but ...

This is a user forum and all of the people in this discussion are just that. Users. Unless someone is marked staff, they aren't employed by Adobe.

Nobody knows how hard it is to make more bleed available. You might want to make a feature request, because we in the forum can't change it anyway. In this thread people just tried to offer workarounds, because that's the only thing we can do to help you.

Feature Request/Bug Report Form

Participating Frequently
May 4, 2017

I'm aware of that. I guess maybe that was just me venting more than expecting an Adobe representative to take notice of this thread and fix anything. I'll put in the feature request--but it just sucks cause I'm sure they get feature requests all day, every day, and it would probably be just one more lost in the mix. But nonetheless....I guess it's all we can do.

Jeff Witchel, ACI
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 12, 2017

Make your Artboard in Illustrator large enough to include Bleed for the art. Then Place the art in a new inDesign file that includes the 1" Bleed you need.

Inspiring
January 12, 2017

Jeff,

I would view the placement of the graphic created in illustrator (or even photoshop) into InDesign as redundant unless I were using InDesign to combine multiple graphics on a common layout template.

Jeff Witchel, ACI
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 12, 2017

Normally, I would say the same. But it solves the Bleed issue in seconds.

Inspiring
January 12, 2017

I regularly use illustrator CC for large format projects requiring various "bleeds" greater than finished size in excess of 11" and have been involved in projects spanning 64,000 sqft.

Like Ton suggested, increasing your artboard size will provide you with greater control.

I would also recommend utilizing layers with graphics as templates/guides so your finish size isn't lost within your mind's memory.  For example, "finish line" might represent a banner once hemmed up and "cut line" might represent the bleed needed to provide the hem or pockets to meet the finish requirements.  You could then utilize the document settings bleed for production outside your cut line.

To illustrate further I'll run you through a typical banner with hems and pole pockets workflow.  Banner finishes/installs at 1219.2mm (48") x 2438.4mm (96").  The sides need 25.4mm (1") hems, and the top and bottom require 127mm (5") pockets for installation (pole pockets).  I would set my art board to 50"x106", create a finish layer with a box measuring 48"x96".  Since I work with digital cutters I create a trim layer recognized by the cutter with a box representing the cut line at 50x106 and can utilize the document settings to add a typical .5" bleed all around that will be removed as waste.

Hope this helps.

John Mensinger
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 12, 2017

Jeff's suggestion is a good one.

Have you checked with the output provider? Many of the large format providers I know actually prefer InDesign-built files to Illustrator, particularly if there are raster images in the composition. The extra bleed capability is a bonus.

Jeff Witchel, ACI
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 12, 2017

If this is a layout, you may want to consider creating it in InDesign. The maximum Bleed is 6" in ID.

Participant
January 12, 2017

There are a lot of workarounds. But my question is still "why a bleed limit of 1 inch"? Surly a couple of line changes in the programme would be a simple thing to do.

I've been working 1/4 scale for years in illustrator but have been ask by a new supplier for 120mm bleed on all sides of these panels. The artwork has already been started in Illustrator and has just been approved.

John Mensinger
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 12, 2017

valn83651968 wrote:

There are a lot of workarounds. But my question is still "why a bleed limit of 1 inch"?

Surely it's a valid question, but I don't expect anyone will be able to come along and justify the limitation. Apparently it was a decision at some point and the decision was made that led to the present result. It may be that everyone other than the decision maker can't know why, and there may or may not have been a good reason for it. Did you enter the feature request?

Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 12, 2017

When you work in a scale in 25% and you need a bleed finally of 30mm, it would be 7.5mm in your scale!

Participant
January 12, 2017

I need a final bleed of 120mm all round.

Ton Frederiks
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 12, 2017

As a workaround, you can enlarge your artboard with 30 mm all around and set custom cropmarks.

Jacob Bugge
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 12, 2017

valn,

Is it too silly to suggest 20% scale with a 24mm bleed which should give the same final printing result (with the corresponding adaptation of raster effect settings and raster image resolluions)?

Participant
January 12, 2017

1/4 scale is industry standard. To use a smaller scale, every thing else would have to be adjusted (raster ppi etc.)

Jacob Bugge
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 12, 2017

valn,

Concerning the 20%/25% scale:

If you use the same raster images, their pixel x pixel size and thereby their final resolution will be unchanged.

And it is only one change in the Effect>Document Raster Effetcs Settings.