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April 29, 2024
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Generative Fill being hyper-sensitive?

  • April 29, 2024
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Hi!

Is the Generative Fill feature more restrictive now? There seems to be a lot of things I could create in the base PhotoShop that the Beta flat out rejects. Further, it seems like these rejections are random, and that's really frustrating - especially since it takes the program 10 seconds to say "no". It's really annoying. I've always had issues with PhotoShop blocking otherwise inocous prompts, but the current Beta release takes it to the next level. What's going on, will this be adressed, and will there be more clarity provided? 

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Participating Frequently
May 1, 2025

Yes, this is super frustrating. As a company we work in retouching business and we are currently retouching underwear campaign. I cant even remove creases off the underwear at the moment, results simply dont generate. People on photos are not naked, they are wearing underwear, bra's and pants, but this seems to be an issue now. So how we as a business suppose to use Adobe now?

Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 1, 2025

@elegant_fanB830 have you tried using the Remove Tool? Much more efficient than gen fill for that type of retouching.

Participating Frequently
May 1, 2025

Seriously Kevin,

I dont think your answer is even funny or sarcastic. Tools are there to perform tasks, and when you have teams of people working or "commercial campaigns" those tools have to perform. Absence of guidlines or actual tool availability in randomised manner is a problem when you rely on them. Removing particular patterns from clothing may take additional time. When jobs are quoted, they are quoted with relatively strict time restraints on performing certain level of retouching to be done. 1,2 or 3 hrs per image.. 

And when suddenly your tool is not avaialble because there is a belly button visible on the image, it puts you as a company in a very uncomfortable position, where you quoted 2hrs of work but now suddenly it will take 4hrs. So your budget spirals out of control and suddenly from being in profit you end up working at a loss, because someone in GenAI deparments thought that belly button is too much to handle for AI.

This just looks like a clear lack of experience or oversight within teams that make those products available for commercial customers. And showing you picture of a Adobe being a company ran by executives for creatives, and those executives have their own vision of whats allowed and whats not. 


Participant
April 29, 2025

I had a partial image of a bodybuilder who's elbows were cut off and needed them filled in. Sure he's a good looking lad where the photo was cut off mid torso. He's not nude but he's also not wearing a shirt. Gasp. The prudes are already shrinking. Photoshop said it violated the sensitivity clause and rejected the notion I wanted it to add elbows. Elbow. Not an erect p**** or a va**** . An elbow. Even after I blacked out the torso it still refused. So no to provoke all mighty Adobe's woke sensitive delicate feewings, I used the Content Aware fill with a rough outline of an elbow and did a work around. Adobe you gotta fix your issues. This is stupid.

"There's a hero is all of us" - MuscleyMan
Known Participant
March 17, 2025

I think its honestly silly. You have to be 18 or older to use AI gen, why censor results that are adult oriented in the first place? Last time I checked photoshop is supposed to be a professional tool used by professionals and believe it or not there is professional photography that involves swimsuits, lingerie, nudity, etc.

If you have to be 18 to use it why does it act like its PG/PG13? Do you think people over the age of 18 can't handle a little smoke, or a swimsuit top, or nudity? And if you do, give us an option to say "allow X".

Z3ROCOOL22
Known Participant
March 1, 2025

The words you're looking for are: "Hyper Censored"

Trevor.Dennis
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 3, 2025

I think I might have noticed a change in how Gen Fill is working.  I used to tell people to temporarily hide the potentially contentious area, use Gen Fill and turn the problem pixels back on again, but the last few times I have tried that trick, it no longer worked.  Could it be looking at turned off layers or behind masks?

Sean August Horvath
Participating Frequently
July 18, 2024

it is AI and it sort of has a mind of its own and will move in different directions over time. 

I'm making fashion images and NO SPEEDOS except like once randomly in a blue moon. 

Which is a real bummer because when they first released FireFly it was what art should be. Throwing dudes in dresses and heels -- not like you needed to use the image. But there has definitely been a shift that they are in some way influencing, even as AI shifts on it's own. 

It is really frustraiting. 

Sometimes I have to litereally write out a gay sob story to play into the stereotype and it'll generate "gay" things — which, a speedo is not, I mean there were more straight men on the beach with speedos last year than the year before and so on — and like other countries. And even shorts like litereally normal shorts, especially for a fashion lookbook are a 5-7" inseam but it refuses to put shorts over the dudes knee which is like 90s and I just get to angry because WHO is this helping and protecting and when did ART become this. I've been experimenting using OpenSource and, it is okay I mean you get what you want but like, it is so literal. I miss when Adobe wasn't crazy ... like 5 years ago? I've been using it for a decade at least. I stopped paying twice and they give a free month because like the creative process they force is the opposite of flow and ugh I could go on for hours I am just so dissapointed in them. Particuarly like, they *could* know who is doing what. I'd be happy to share my projects. There are a million other solutions and they just half their censorship, it's just.. I mean they have been all around disappointing to the max since AI. Once I master the learning curve for Stable Diffusion, which seems more about finding a model to download with it, I'm so out. 

 

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Participant
April 30, 2024

Same here. I had both apps opened simultaneously and Beta blocked most of the prompts but photoshop allowed them. 

Known Participant
May 18, 2024

See, it's crap like this that drives me nuts. Don't know what's wrong, processor takes 10-15 seconds to reject it, and I'm pulling my hair in frustration. I know this is Firefly, not PhotoShop Beta, but I'm getting the same type of errors in Photoshop Beta. Anyone?

Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 20, 2024

Is the screenshot browser window your image and you have the rights to edit/use? You should review the AI guidelines for using third party images.

https://www.adobe.com/legal/licenses-terms/adobe-gen-ai-user-guidelines.html

 

Known Participant
April 30, 2024

Will there ever be a time when you can turn off community guidelines for the private use of the software you're continuously paying for?

 

Having to convince Photoshop that I'm not making explicit content is pretty frustrating.

 

And for that matter, why is there a nudity/blood/weapons/violence policing of my software in the first place?

 

If the image generated isn't what Adobe wants in their source pool, don't save it.

 

As a final insult, I wasn't allowed to post this question without first removing the 4 letter p.word which refers to explicit nudity... Just... really?

 

Known Participant
April 30, 2024

Yeah, I understand. Even moreso when it's confusing about what's allowed and what isn't, and what that thing makes anyway.

Known Participant
April 29, 2024

"Swimsuit", honestly. I can understand why Adobe is sensitive with that prompt - fine. But the applications seem inconsistent. I got the top three to work - even one with an exposed midriff, but the last one it didn't want to do anything. And that's what I find frustrating - I have no idea when it'll work and when it won't. I get the same problem with reference images - sometimes bikinis are fine, sometimes they're not. Sometimes one-pieces are fine, and sometimes they're not. Again, I can understand why Adobe is being sensitive - fine. But I want consistency. (I blacked out the person's face since they were photos from an event; the first two are from stock pictures).

 

 

 

Known Participant
April 30, 2024

It's stuff like this that bugs me. Possibly racy image, sure, but if you look at the selection I was trying to cover her up. Even a blank prompt didn't work in Beta. Went to the current (stable) version of PhotoShop - 25.7 - and it filled it in for me. And, again, it's not consistent. It's really driving me nuts.

Known Participant
April 30, 2024

Sorry I'm new to this... I should've uploaded this as a picture. Anyway, Beta wouldn't fill it, but stable PhotoShop will.

Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 29, 2024

Can you share some examples of prompts that failed?

Sean August Horvath
Participating Frequently
February 3, 2025

LOLOLL this guy