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January 21, 2015
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150% UI Scaling Option for Photoshop

  • January 21, 2015
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I'd been trying to get some feedback from the guys at Adobe regarding this, but seems like no one has seen or heard this pleas. I'm currently using a Surface Pro 3 to work on Photoshop, and while I really appreciate the fact that Adobe introduced the 200% scaling option, it's really too big to do anything productively. It's definitely usable, but is it the best scaling? I would really hope 150% scaling option to be added as well. So we could toggle between it base on our preference.

What do you guys think?

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Correct answer D Fosse

The way this is supposed to work now, is that Photoshop UI scaling automatically follows the Windows setting, in 25% increments.

The crucial point is that the image window itself maintains independent scaling, so that 100% still means one image pixel represented by exactly one screen pixel. This is what's new, and this is what has been difficult to implement before. This is what took so long.

Note that this requires Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, and it does not work on Windows 7 or 8.

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JJMack
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 19, 2017

With  current Windows 10 shortcuts you can now override Photoshop display handling and force Windows display scaling onto Photoshop.  This will scale all that Photoshop Displays not just Photoshop UI image display is scaled just like Photoshop UI is.  Just set Photoshop UI scaling to 100% and use Windows scaling. Photoshop will work like other applications do.  Only Photoshop seem to have a UI scaling feature. I do not think other Adobe Application do.  They may simply use OS display scaling.

JJMack
Participant
October 19, 2017

This method displays the UI at the correct size, but the icons and text don't have the right resolution, they're still blurry. It's better than nothing, but still not the optimal solution (which Adobe already handled on other softwares). Thanks for sharing!

Participant
October 4, 2017

+1 for 150%, or even better, more range like 100%, 125%, 150%, 175%, 200%

Inspiring
September 20, 2017

Just unbelievable this hasn't been fixed in over 3 years!!

Yes, 150% is needed! Stupid on a 32inch 4k monitor. 100% of far too small and 200% is massive.

Participating Frequently
July 12, 2017

As a FYI, this just popped into my mailbox:

" The Photoshop team has been listening to your many requests for better scaling options on Windows, and we’re happy to announce that we are ready for beta testing on this feature. Because of the large scale changes involved in this feature, we want to make sure people have the opportunity to test it out before it’s released.

All Windows customers are welcome to join and test, but please note that you will need to have Windows 10 Creators Edition installed in order to use the new continuously scalable user interface and per-monitor scaling. Windows 7, 8 and prior versions of Windows 10 will only support 100% and 200% - as the continuously scalable user interface requires APIs only available in Creators Edition.

If you would like to help the Adobe Photoshop team with the quality of this new feature, please visit the sign-up link to be considered for the program (scroll down to the Photoshop CSUI Program and click on Apply):

https://www.adobeprerelease.com/ "

This is from the 'Photoshop Family' community.

So, progress!

Adobe Employee
July 12, 2017

I just came here to post this, but you beat me to it!

I am part of the team that has been working on this feature, and I encourage anyone who is unhappy with the current interface scaling in Photoshop to sign up for the Photoshop CSUI Program:

https://www.adobeprerelease.com/

We want to make sure to get this right for the many people who have been requesting this feature. This is a good chance to see what we've been working on and give feedback.

Inspiring
September 20, 2017

When will this launch / ship?

Participant
July 11, 2017

@Adobe Any word on implementing this option?? Sure would be nice...

JJMack
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 11, 2017

You not dealing with Adone here. This is user forums funded by Adobe. Adobe also does not make public what is in their plains for applications or any release schedules for their Applications.

JJMack
jamieb2008
Participant
July 1, 2017

Sadly this is just what you get when you pay for everything on a subscription.

This is exactly the reason why they switched to the CC sub model in the first place: They can fix or ignore bugs at their own leisure (in addition to lack of content for a full release).

  High DPI UI-scaling is becoming an integrated feature in virtually all modern applications not just for working on mobile devices, but to accommodate higher res. monitors, adapt to the needs of multi-display setups and so forth.

In that context it's utterly laughable that Adobe would implement UI-scaling with a grand total of two options: 100% and 200%.

It's like handing someone a camera and telling them they have to take pictures either from 8 inches or 10 feet away...

(where's the eye-roll emoji?)

Sorry guys, 2+years to update this simple functionality feels like the subscription money bliss on the part of Adobe has caused them to put their feet up.

donbarrum
Inspiring
July 1, 2017

I agree, its laughable and utterly pathetic. The Photoshop PC team in Adobe must have some serious issues or lack of talent. How they managed to screw up the HiDPI UI so badly and not been able to fix it in almost 3 years is mind boggling. I don't think the Adobe team themselves actually understand what is not working with it...if they did, they would have fixed it immediately.

But, honestly its not about just giving us 2 options of size. There's shouldn't be an option of size in the first place.  It should just check the size of your screen and adapt accordingly. That how Photoshop is on the Mac and thats how ALL the other programs from Adobe behaves!!!! omg

It's just so freekin annooying that Adobe don't see that its not about how WIndows UI works or anything like that, they simply implemented it completely wrong in one program on one platform/OS...and in fact they should remove the entire feature until they do it the way it's suppose to be. Currently its just breaking the User experience completely. But I have given up believing it will ever be fixed, they just don't care.

jamieb2008
Participant
July 2, 2017

Yeah frankly it's embarrassing to even release it at all in its current state (from 3 years ago)

Should just simply remove it until they can figure out how to make an actual slider to scale the UI in say, increments of 10% or some such.

Participant
June 21, 2017
Dabatross
Known Participant
June 21, 2017

that fix doesn't work because it makes the interface blurred

JJMack
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 21, 2017

Dabatross  wrote

that fix doesn't work because it makes the interface blurred

Any scale UI will have some blurring  a lower resolution image will always be larger and softer, Also if you are scaling for a display  and the scaling percentage is not an even multiple of the displays resolution there will be distortion because of rounding.   2x, 3x, 4x will not be distorted they will just be larger and softer.  1.25x, 1.5x, 1,75x scaling can not be done perfect. For a display real resolution can not be changed use that is use different size pixels. Displays have on size pixels.   A display PPI can not change.

JJMack
NumbGnat
Participant
June 20, 2017

Actually, this is pretty irresponsible of Adobe.  Windows has UI and font scaling BUILT IN for Accessibility reasons.  Why don't they just scrap their own "custom" scaling junk and let Windows handle the scaling like most other software does?  Obviously some items can't necessarily be scaled (i.e. the photo you're working on), but most of the UI can be.

As a software developer myself, I have often found this frustrating when a particular piece of software doesn't simply conform to the Windows UI and Font Scaling settings to begin with.  This requirement should be part of the "Microsoft Certified" program (do they still do that?)

I used to be one of those people that ran my laptop in the highest resolution and smallest text possible, to take advantage of as much real-estate as I could.  I'm older now and can't do that anymore, however I still run in the highest resolution possible, I simply adjust Windows' UI and Font Scaling so that it works for me.  This makes the display crisp and sharp, taking advantage of the native pixel-per-pixel resolution of the monitor.

For a while, I had cataracts building up and needed to adjust my overall Windows display options to dark backgrounds and over-sized fonts.  It was very frustrating trying to use software that did not accommodate these OS level settings.  I've since had my cataracts removed and have hard lenses in their place, but as anyone else who has gone through this procedure can testify, perfect focus is designed at the 10 foot level and beyond.  Working on a laptop requires the use of "cheaters" or "readers" for up close focus.

Software should just let Windows handle the scaling of the UI elements such as window and dialog title bars and text.  Why any software wants to override what the user has chosen as their preferred colors/sizes/fonts/etc, is beyond me.  It makes for a very inconsistent user experience and it shows that your company doesn't give a rat's ass about the users' preferences.  SMH...

JJMack
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 20, 2017

You have it wrong.  You can use Windows scaling with Photoshop using external  manifest files for Photoshop.   However windows scaling does not just scale UI elements like you write.  Windows Scaling scales everything an application displays on a display being scaled for the application.   Adobe want to be able to use your display high-resolution editing your images.  With Windows scaling Photoshop will see your display as a lower resolution display and window will scale everything Photoshop displays to that lower resolution and display that scaled image on your high-resolution display.    Photoshop will not be able to use your displays high-resolution.

That is why Adobe's Photoshop manifest is coded the way it is. So Photoshop can use your display's high resolution.  The problem is  Adobe UI scaling has many issues.

This is also an Adobe Users forum users like you most here do not work for Adobe you are not dealing with Adobe here.  You are dealing with users that do care or users looking for help. I'm retired don't have any company ties.

JJMack
Participant
June 19, 2017

+1 (Microsoft Surface Pro 4)

JJMack
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 19, 2017

You can use Windows 150% scaling on your Microsoft Surface Pro 4 Today with Photoshop versions using external manifest files.  You will not see Adobe offering a 1.5x UI scaling option there are simply to many issue with Adobe UI scaling implementation.  I do not believe Adobe UI scaling design can be fixed.  I do not think that Adobe will even try to address the current issues.

JJMack
Dabatross
Known Participant
June 19, 2017

They already confirmed they're working on 150% scaling

Participant
June 9, 2017

Still waiting 150%..........