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Correct answer davescm

See the announcement released by Adobe today and visible from the latest version when using 3D.

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/3d-faq.html

Not what many of us hoped for, but at least it is honest.



 

 

Dave

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davescm
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davescmCommunity Expert
Community Expert
August 16, 2021

First let me say I don't work for Adobe so my opinions are personal.

Photoshop is a brilliant 2D image editor but its 3D functions which were always a bit of an add on have not been developed with the rest of the application and it is a long time since I've seen bug fixes.

 

Adobe are updating the core graphics functions in Photoshop. This is driven by the operating systems of Apple and Microsoft in which the old Open GL functions are being removed in the case of Apple, or deprecated in the case of Microsoft. This means that the graphics functions that have worked for years must be rewritten to use Metal and Direct X. At the same time, Adobe are sensibly updating those core functions to deliver the additional speed we require to handle the very large files of today.

Some functionality in Photoshop, such as 3D and Lighting effects, still relies on the older Open GL graphics functions. To make these work, an additional preference Preferences>Technology previews>Deactivate Native Canvas has been added. This can be checked and Photoshop restarted to restore 3D functions to where they were in 22.3

I continue to use Photoshop in my 3D workflow but not for modelling, texturing or rendering. For that I use 3D applications, including Adobe 3D Designer and Painter. That way I keep Photoshop for what it does best which, in my view, is 2D pixel editing and final adjustment, compositing.

 

DERJUNG
DERJUNGAuthor
Inspiring
August 16, 2021

Thank you very much for your answer. I am already aware that 3D no longer gets the attention. But I can't, as a market leader/monopoly, just leave the functions broken in the program and then not offer any more bugfixes. So then they must be so consistent and cut off old braids. So now I am in an impossible situation with the customer who has no understanding for this.

However, your tip does not help. Because when I disable the native part in the technology section, the whole workspace glitches. And then I can't work with it at all. It is then also slow and the support of the brush preview is then gone and also the rotating of the canvas then no longer works and some filters then also no longer work. Phew, but thanks anyway. 

Besides, the customer wants to make changes to the PSD himself and it was just easier. Now I have to get him to buy/rent more software and train his employees and find a new workflow. Also, rendering a packshot takes much longer than just changing the texture in Photoshop and saving it. Stager is already fast in the preview, but rendering cleanly takes time.

Eugenio.NYC
Eugenio.NYC
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August 16, 2021

Hi, sorry about that

you are using an M1 Mac?

could you show/share us what kind of 3D models you are working with?

Do you use always the same 3d models?

Thanks for your answers

 

    DERJUNG
    DERJUNGAuthor
    Inspiring
    August 16, 2021

    Hi Eugenio,

    No, I am using a MacPro 2019 with a Vega Pro Duo. But the problem is also on all other Imacs without M1 chip. I have no M1 system here so i can't test. It is due to the fact that Photoshop 2018 works differently it seems. All versions after 2018 have this "problem". I have at least tried to install the oldest version available (21.2.10) and still this display error with the blur occurs.
    Yes I have in the past always used the same model and also file. it is a simple bend polygon area with a texture. Pure Textur, without any rendering effects. this I still created 2020 on my old MacPro 2010 with PS 2018 and everything was great. Then I updated to the new Mac Pro and at the moment just Big Sur and now the client wants changes to the file. But it doesn't work now as it did in the old version.  I have also rather the suspicion that Adobe operates for a few years damage limitation, since apple revises its systems so that photoshop has more and more often errors with graphics crads. But that's just my feeling.
    I had to reactivate the old MacPro and continue working with the old Photoshop. This is a real workflow breaker.

    Unfortunately I can't upload the open PSD here in public, because then I'm in breach of kind of NDA contract.

    Here is a Video: https://youtu.be/yft99hp0q-0

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