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September 14, 2025
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AI and generative credits just keep getting worse.

  • September 14, 2025
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I have had a problem with generative credits from the start, but it just keeps getting worse.

Everything from censorship in general keeping us from creating things like graphics for signs stating that guns are not allowed in a building (not to mention the censorship of art in general, which is a slap in the face to their core demographic), to their censorship algorithms thinking things like edits of someones face is nudity because it thinks that you are editing someones behind, not their face, to the insane cost of extra credits that far exceeds the monthly cost of Adobe products for a meager number of credits, have been a problem from the start. Instead of making things better, they are making things worse and worse.

My new primary issue is that their generative AI is far from top tier, but it is the most expensive, and if you want to use their best generative AI you have to actually pay extra credits for Firefly Model 4 Ultra generations. They know that Firefly is sub-par, so they have Firefly Ultra, but charge more to people that are already paying subscriptions, meaning that some of their best tools are behind an additional pay wall, lessening the value of the product overall.

Even with Ultra it often takes me 4 or 5 tries to get a usable graphic element for editing... Something that usually takes only one try with ChatGPT, and they are not even graphics, photography, or art focused. 90% of the time I am finding myself going to other, cheaper, better AI programs for generation before even bothering with Photoshop because I know that Photoshop and Firefly will probably take several tries, and if I want it to be decent then you have to pay 10x more credits, making the 2000 credits included with the aditional Firefly subscription behave more like 200, which might result in 50 elements that are technically usable, of which I will be lucky if 5 meet my actual needs and will actually be used in a project.

Adobe, the gold standard in graphic and video editing, is falling far, far behind other AI in both quality and cost, and I just don't get it. They are charging as though they are the best in the industry and have a model that treats AI as a separate product, rather than another tool in the arsenal of its users. Both of these are huge mistakes that are bad for both the users and the company. It is just seriously baffling and I wish I had some idea what the goal was other than "make money." They make money by making a good product that people want, not by charging more for a mediocre product that, in the end, devalues their core products. This just seems like what happens with people that specialize in business and finance try to creat products for designers and artists.

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Participant
November 4, 2025

I agree and would add that if you compare the quality of generative fill in Photoshop using Flux Kontext to using it for free in ComfyUI, Adobe's implimentation consistently produces unusuable results. Using the model directly in ComfyUI produces something that works nearly every time and a very signifcantly higher quality and degree of realism. It embarrassing how terrible Adobe is doing when we can just use models like Flux Kontext, QWEN Edit Image, or WAN2.2 for free and with a much higher degree of control.

Participant
October 24, 2025

It’s just ridiculous that we now have a credit limit while the quality of Generative Fill has dropped so significantly. Nothing it generates is even worth keeping, yet credits are deducted with every attempt. At this point, Generative Fill is essentially useless, the simplest edits end up looking like garbage.

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Community Expert
September 29, 2025

@Rainybeet I 100% agree with you but my two cents worth is I believe Adobe is 'being safe' while other AI companies are not worried. Be sued or not be sued?! 

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