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"Assign working rgb" as default choice when missing color profile

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When opening files with missing color profile in photoshop, it gives you a panel with three choice:

- Leave as is

- Assign working RGB

- Assign profile

The default choice is "Leave as it", but my workflow always requires to assign color profile of my working space, so every time I have to click on the second choice before clicking the OK button, which is kind of cumbersome. Is there any method that I can make the default choice become "Assign working RGB"?

 

I am now using photoshop 25.3.1 on macOS sonama, and this problem only happens on this version. Before I was using photoshop 2022 on my old iMac with macOS Catalina, and the default choice was "Assign working RGB" instead of "Leave as it".

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January 29, 2024

@Pok24012865ecow You COULD assign the ICC profile you THINK is correct but how would you know?

 

I would tend to open 'leave as is'*, (although it says there that this means "do not colourmanage", that’s not quite right as this will actually now use the Photoshop default colourspace to display the file.)

In your case the working RGB is set to Adobe RGB. 

 

Next, if the appearance is correct you can ASSIGN the Photoshop default colourspace (now the file will be saved with that assigned profile embedded) and if you require a different colourspace for some reason then - next CONVERT the file to that colourspace.

 

Why, well some files are not in your default coulursapce and some even have incorrect embedded profiles, so you MIGHT on some occasions see incorrect appearance and thus need to assign a different colourspace profile. 

 

*of course you COULD assign the working RGB and continue as above from that point. It’s a personal choice to "open as is" in my case.

 

Assign profile - means

Replace an image file's ICC profile label (the profile "tag") or add a profile tag to an untagged file -

Tagged files: the Assigning of a profile is required very rarely for tagged files and when misused almost always alters appearance negatively, due to a change in interpretation of the image data by the colour management process.

Untagged files: Assigning a suitable ICC profile is necessary, even vital so that a colour managed program can correctly interpret pixel data.

After assigning - the image pixel data is unchanged, but the assigned profile is now used by the colour management process, so appearance may change. 

 

Convert to profile - means

translate the file's colour information to a new colourspace retaining image appearance*

(*within the limits of the destination gamut). 

The image pixel data is changed, to retain the image appearance whilst shifting it to a different colour space

 

I hope this helps
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January 29, 2024

@Pok24012865ecow thanks for the "correct" that will help others

have a good week

Neil

D Fosse
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January 28, 2024

You shouldn't automatically assign the working RGB - you should assign the profile the file was originally created in. Without proper color management, you obviously don't know what that was, but it's fairly simple to make an educated guess by simply seeing which one looks most correct and natural.

 

Then you convert to your working RGB if that's the one you want.

 

A file without a color profile will most likely have been created in an sRGB-type environment, so that's the first to try. If it's from the internet, it's always sRGB.

 

If it's from a Mac user it will probably be Image P3, since newer Macs have a P3 type display, and it seems to be common practice in the Mac community to use P3 for everything.

 

Untagged Adobe RGB or ProPhoto are very rarely seen.

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January 28, 2024

I am not trying to automatically assign the working RGB, all I want is the default choice on the "missing profile" panel be the middle one which is "assign working RGB".

I am fully aware of what assigning Adobe RGB to untagged RGB files mean, and I do need to do this very specific action in my workflow, so it will be convenient if whenever I open a untagged RGB file, the default choice "missing profile" panel is already "assign working RGB" so I don't need to press it one more time.

D Fosse
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January 28, 2024

OK, but I'm not sure it's even possible to set a default here. I also get "don't color manage" if I open an untagged file.

 

I still maintain that the first choice shouldn't be "assign working RGB", it should be "assign profile..." where you can choose the (most) appropriate one. That should be the default. Then you convert.

 

Untagged files can by definition not be automated. They are undefined. You have to decide which profile first.