Boycott Creative Cloud?

Maybe-just maybe they'll take note of Microsoft's major change in their DRM policy on the new XBOX One as a result of the backlash from their customers. Maybe Adobe will listen to their customers but I doubt it. They have the attitude that what other companies learn from their customers just doesn't apply to them. Well Adobe, your customers continue to speak loud and clear. I use photoshop in spurts whenever I have a major shoot that I want to process. I don't use it eveyday or even every month-Adobe needs to come up with some pricing policy for us occasional users. In the meantime, I'll just use CS6 while I research a good alternative.

I found it very interesting Adobe started sending out the same surveys they sent to me months ago. https://ec3126.customervoice360.com/uc/main/7b14/ospe.php?SES=e9450e5f007f8a8b4b966e694ce656c2&syid=844&sid=845&act=start&js=16&flash=1107

This time they emailed me twice to ask me to take the same surveys to see if I would be interested in the cloud.

HELLO! I didnt want the cloud in the first survey why would I want it in the 2 identical surveys?

Really building a genuine loathing for Adobe.

I have three issues with CC:

1. I want to be able to EDIT my work when I don't have income. The desktop model supported this. The cloud model does not, and that is unacceptable.

2. Adobe can keep raising the price, because they will be holding us all hostage. Sure at some point a percentage of CC users would drop off, but all that means is that Adobe can milk the absolute most from us using this model. It's not a vehicle for innovation, it's a vehicle for exploitation.

3. F--- the cloud. I'll be keeping my work on my laptop, thank you very much.

I'm getting confused about all of this. Adobe say on their FAQ ...

While Adobe Creative Suite® 6 products will continue to be available for purchase, Adobe has no plans for future releases of Creative Suite or other CS products.

Does that mean that if I don't sign up to Cloud I will not get any future updates to my CS6 copy even though PS in Cloud may be updated? If so, is that not just a way of Adobe forcing users to sign up to Cloud?

Well it looks like it really doesnt matter. There are 30,000 people signed the petition to keep perpetual licensing in about month and half https://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-mandatory-creative-cloud-subscription-model.

There on track to piss off 300,000 people by the years end.

Adobe doesnt care whats 300,000 when you already have 500,000 on the cloud.. Everyone loves it happy happy joy joy.

Wankers

A hypothetical question...say the main servers of Adobe fail....just when they are doing a upgrade. Now some...maybe 1000's are without viable software....then what?

I'm a second year Photography student in a two year diploma program. Instead of purchasing CS6, I've been holding out for the new upgrade before taking advantage of the student pricing available to me. That is, up until about an hour ago when I learned that the new upgrade is CC and is only available by subscription, meaning I'll never own it. When I saw that, I got a horrible sinking feeling in the pit of my gut. I would never lease a car let alone software. The idea is just ludicrous. I guess I'll be spending my first couple of years as a pro exhausting CS5 until something else comes along to replace it. Adobe is making a really big mistake here, IMO. Really sorry to hear they're going in this direction. Maybe the shareholders will put them in line.

I am one of the great unwashed. Photoshop is strictly a hobby for me. I do feel for people who need it to survive professionally. I will hang on to CS6 and see what happens. In the meanwhile, I will try to get more bang for my buck out of other programs I have like OnOne, Nik and ArtRage. I have been finding PS a bit bloated for my needs and am pretty sure at my level I can get by eventually. I am not taking this personally-- but for sure CC is not a model I want to encourage unless it goes hand in hand with a perpetual choice or has a reasonable get out of Dodge scheme. I do realise that I have choices and am not fettered by needing the software for my work. It will be interesting to see where this goes. So many questions will have to be sorted out including cycles between upgrades etcetera. Traditionally, I am an early adopter (yup, a fool) and just have to have but this time around I suspect by the time CS6 is becoming too unwieldy due to age some of the more difficult CC issues will have sorted themselves out or some / some group of programs will have evolved to put paid to the notion that it is Adobe or nothing. I have read several comments that Adobe really is irreplaceable and that it would take years to produce a competitor but maybe that is only from a bloatware point of view. If different smaller programs are developed, people could pick and choose. In example, I don't need or want video or 3D. As another example, ArtRage painting really appeals to me much more than PS. So, it might not be another Adobe as Adobe is but rather a small grouping of viable programs? I actually would prefer that so that no one becomes as big as Adobe again. I don't think it is good for anyone to have one product so big that everyone feels enslaved by it. Yeah, workflow is going to take a hit but the alternative is being held in thrall by a bunch of shareholders. So, even though I can afford it and even though I want it (early adopter), I am going to sit it out. Just because I am not taking it personally doesn't mean I don't have an opinion about how this whole matter has been rolled out.

Been using Adobe Products professionally for 20 years. I won't sign up for CC.  I will continue using the Master Collection CS6 that I purchased in Dec of last year as long as I can make it work. If everyone stays at that level we can effectively boycott the CC version. My biggest problem with CC is the lack of an "exit strategy". I stop paying - i have no access to my CC versions of my files. I don't even mind the monthly payments - but you need to have some value if you stop - so rather than a rental scheme, it should be a rent to own scheme. If people new that they could own the software after paying so many years they probably wouldn't hesitate to subscribe. It's the thought of having nothing at the end that is scaring people off CC. BOYCOTT CC!!

Well, I'm in a pickle as of this morning.  I bought Photoshop CS5 nearly 2 years ago and have been happily using it.  When all this about the Cloud came out I spoke out against it for various reasons.  As of this morning CS5 has stopped working and asked me for my serial number (I have not changed nor upgraded my computer).  When I input my serial number it now states it is invalid.  I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with no luck.  My only options are to either activate the trial version or do without.  Since it is a Saturday I cannot contact Adobe til Monday which I will certainly do.

Now, perhaps this is all just a strange glitch.  But given that it has worked fine for nearly 2 years and suddenly this happens.. I find it an odd coincedence to say the least.  Also, even if I didn't object to their cloud pricing, etc.  How am I to trust that they can keep that subscription reliably functioning when apparently they can't even validate a serial number correctly.

Eitherway I'm finished with Adobe products.  This is just too much and I'm in the middle of several commercial projects for which I will now be spending my weekend converting PSD files into something I can use with some other software until I get this sorted.  Thanks ever so much for the additional headaches Adobe, ever so appreciated.  Time to give Corel a try.

An thanks to everyone else for letting me vent my spleen.