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April 23, 2018
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Color Management

  • April 23, 2018
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I recently purchased a Canon PIXMA Pro-100 and am having an issue with printing what and how my monitor displays it. I have been working on 10 photographs which I intend on entering in the Orange County, CA Fair photography contest. The colors and brightness are way off between what the monitor displays vs what the printer actually prints out. I have tried different settings when trying to print a photograph I have edited with Photoshop CS6 Extended.  I have run through the monitor calibration procedures a couple of times using my ColorMunki Photo and iStudio software. I have been trying to get a "Printer Test Page" I am using Windows 10 Pro (64 bit).

(https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=printer+test+page&fr=mcafee&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.systeminsight.co.uk%2Fdownloads%2FCanon_Printheads%2FA4_Test_Print_CMYKRGB.gif#id=7&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.systeminsight.co.uk%2Fdownloads%2FCanon_Printheads%2FA4_Test_Print_CMYKRGB.gif&action=click)

to print out like what is displayed on my ASUS PA279Q photo monitor, but am unsuccessful. The Orange and Magenta look more like a brown and the dark blue looks closer to black.I have tried "Photoshop Manages Color" and "Printer Manages Color" with very little noticeable differences. When selecting "Photoshop manages color". I see a notice to disable Color management in the printer, but have been unable to find out where and how to complete this.

Do you have any suggestions that may help me. The fair is rapidly approaching. What should manage the color? Photoshop or Printer? If the printer, how do I disable the printer's color management? Are there any other setting I should be looking into?

Thank you for your assistance and I look forward to hearing from you soon,

Mike

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    Bob_Hallam
    Legend
    April 23, 2018

    HI MIKE,

    Sounds like you have the monitor side covered, but not the printer profile.  Seems the printer profile is not producing accurate results on your paper.   Try converting to that profile in Photoshop as a way tp pre-view your resullts.  If they match the print your getting the printer profile is correct. if not then that is the problem and you can do one of two things. 

    Find another profile for that device that works better.  or get a printer profiling tool that will allow you to build your own ICC profile for your specific printer / paper combination. 

    ICC programmer and developer, Photographer, artist and color management expert, Print standards and process expert.
    NB, colourmanagement
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 23, 2018

    Hi Mike,

    I recommend you make initial prints to test the process using a paper from the printer manufacturer.

    Your display calibration with the Munki should be OK, I hope.

    Your luminance target should be around 110/120 CD, because a very bright calibration will result in darker prints compared to the screen image.

    Comparison of screen display with a good test proof would be a good idea to confirm that calibration100%.

    That is a wide gamut screen I believe so its important that you only view critical images in colormanaged applications like Adobe Photoshop. Non colormanaged applications can make images look far moire saturated than they really are.

    I suggest you test from Photoshop

    A manufacturers "printer test page" may not use color management properly - it may not have an embedded ICC profile and it certainly should not be printed from a web browser as seems to be suggested following the link. In any case, an image like that with bars of solid colour is little use for testing color, I'd imagine it's for meant testing evenness of cover and head firing etc.

    I would prefer you start out with an unedited known test image, with an embedded profile, one specifically designed for testing printer accuracy visually - try this one, perhaps:

    http://www.colourmanagement.net/downloads/CMnet_Pixl_AdobeRGB_testimage05.zip

    I would always recommend at least initially testing the print process using "Photoshop manages colors", but of course even when you do that you also need to select the right ICC profile there in that same dialog for the printer and paper you're using. That’s very important.

    It's also important to select the right "media" name in the printer software options as that affects the ink lay down.

    As Johan replied - when using "photoshop manages colors" you must be sure that the Canon driver's color managament is off

    Just so you know - when you use "printer manages colors" then Photoshop hands over the (say, sRGB) file and the printer driver does the profile conversion to the printer profile. Its automatically selected in the print driver software when you select a media type.

    I hope this helps

    if so, please do mark my reply as "helpful" and if you're OK now, please mark it as "correct" below, so others who have similar issues can see the solution

    thanks

    neil barstow, colourmanagement

    D Fosse
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 23, 2018

    Just so it's on the table, the Asus PA279Q is a wide gamut monitor.

    In applications that don't do full color management, this unit will display sRGB material incorrectly and grossly oversaturated. ​A wide gamut monitor can only be used in a fully color managed environment, and it must be properly calibrated and profiled. The monitor profile needs to describe the unit's actual, current response.

    JohanElzenga
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 23, 2018

    The best way is to let Photoshop manage the colors and turn off color management in the printer driver. I don't know this particular printer, but I think this page will probably tell you all you need to know:

    https://www.colourphil.co.uk/printing-canon-mac.shtml

    https://www.colourphil.co.uk/printing-canon-PC.shtml

    -- Johan W. Elzenga