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agnetah33803311
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August 23, 2018
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Convert back to Ai file?...

  • August 23, 2018
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Unfortunately, our logo file has been misplaced and all we are left with is a  PSD, sort of - it has some of the layers, but clearly it's been converted from a crappy JPEG or PNG, so if you reduce the size substantially, it becomes a blur, so it's obviously not a vector graphic.

Short of redesigning the logo from scratch in Ai, is there any way to salvage it or somehow vectorize it again?

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    KShinabery212
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    KShinabery212Community Expert
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    August 29, 2018

    That does not sound fun but these things can happen.

    Start backing up and saving your logo in various areas.  Even to your libraries in the Adobe Creative Cloud!

    Theoretically you might simply want to rebuild the logo in Illustrator. I know that is a pain in the rear end, but it could be the best option.  As it will not degrade and will come out the same way.

    How detailed is your logo?  The good thing is you have your logo on an image, you can use it as a template in Illustrator.  Then lock it.  Create a new layer and start reforming it.

    At least that is what I would do.

    In the long run that is the best thing to do.  As you can then resize it, create black and white versions (grayscale) or whatever. 

    Let's connect on LinkedIn. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kshinabery/
    Ameteur Ps Artist
    Ameteur Ps Artist
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    August 29, 2018

    What I'm saying is just a theory. I've opened PSD files in AI many times before, in order to trace images. Although I don't work with a lot of vectors yet, I theorize that if a vector file exist in a PSD layer, you may be able to open it in AI and possibly convert it back from AI; OR at least try and copy the vector image in to a new AI page. If I"m correct, You should be able to save all of the vector's properties by "Save As" from AI.

    Ameteur Ps Artist
    Ameteur Ps Artist
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    August 27, 2018

    This is one of the huge major differences between Photoshop and AI. Illustrator is a VECTOR program. Although PS has vector capabilities, at heart PS is a vector program. I HIGHLY recommend that you're careful NOT to rasterize the vector, otherwise it will loose its qualitative abilities.

    Since AI is compatible with PSD files, if the image itself has NOT been rasterized, try opening the file in AI, and convert it back by choosing "Save As," and see if that works.

    JJMack
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    JJMackCommunity Expert
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    August 27, 2018

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Sepia+Photographi  wrote

    Since AI is compatible with PSD files, if the image itself has NOT been rasterized, try opening the file in AI, and convert it back by choosing "Save As," and see if that works.

    I do not understand what you mean here.  As far as I know  Only vector smart object layers will open in AI if you open the smart object from Photoshop layers palette.  There is no conversion back to AI. Photosop just creates a temp work files tor the layer object's file and its opened the the associated Application. If the object is a placed RAW file Photoshop will open that through it ACR plug-in. ACR will open  RAW file and it UI will have OK and Cancle buttons rather than OPen image or Open Object.  File types associated will AI will open in AI. File Type associated with Photoshop will open in Photoshop.  If the smart obect does not contain as Placed file. Photoshop will create a temp work PSB file for the objects content and the work file will open in Photoshop.  If the Work file is Is Updated but you committing changes you made in ACR or AI or Photoshop.  Phoupshop will update your documents smart object layers object and render a new set of pixels for its contem.

    So there is not need to open the smart to convert to an AI file.  You have that file in the object its the file you place in to the document.

    JJMack
    JJMack
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    JJMackCommunity Expert
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    August 24, 2018

    How big is the PSD logo and how good is the logo's quality?  It it has good size and quality you should be able to place that Logo PSD file into other image document and resize the smart object smaller quite well.  Interpolating down in size works quite well and the image seems to become sharper using interpolation bicubic.  Resizing up is size the logo will become softer.

    my png logo is quite large. View these image in a new tab and zoom to full image size,

    Placed into a 700px br 500px image as a watermark it looks ok to me http://www.mouseprints.net/old/dpr/PlaceWatermark.jsx

    looks better on larger images

    JJMack
    agnetah33803311
    agnetah33803311Author
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    August 26, 2018

    Thanks for the quick response.  Found the logo in Ai, so that's great news, but now having issues making it small enough for an Instagram logo.  Loses quality, big time.

    Nice logo, by the way.

    JJMack
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    JJMackCommunity Expert
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    August 26, 2018

    Fewer Pixels means less  details.  When you have to few pixels you loose most of your images details. Then there is physical size you may be able to engrave the bible text onto to the head of a  straight pin with today's technology the human eye will not be able to read it without a microscope.

    JJMack
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