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OzPhotoMan
Inspiring
February 5, 2025
Question

Exporting to DNG from Lightroom classic

  • February 5, 2025
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Hi all,

 

Some time ago I gave up on LRC as I did not want to be tied in to a proprietary catalog, preferring to use named folders for various versions of my files.

I have about 1000 images processed in LRC, and now wish to convert them to DNG and ditch LR altogether.

If I then re-edit those images, do I lose any quality?

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

3 replies

Rob_Cullen
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 6, 2025

With all the great comments from others above and Reading your first post again and considering-  "..ditch LR altogether."

Then your options are-

 

1) In LrC:  Write metadata to proprietary raw files. This will create sidecar XMP files with the proprietary raw files. All raws will open in Photoshop (from Bridge or a file browser) through ACR with the last edit state visible. You always keep the raws with a sidecar.

 

2) In LrC:  EXPORT files as DNG. No sidecar is created, but the last edit state is visible from the metadata saved within the DNG file.  Now you have two files to contend with- the proprietary raw and the DNG raw. ie. more things to worry about. Are you going to delete the proprietary raw files and just keep the DNGs? Or are you going to Convert in LrC (Not Export)?

 

3) Keep Lightroom-Classic running and indexing all your files, then you need do nothing more. You get to keep all History, Virtual Copies, Collections, etc. And you simply [Edit in Photoshop] when you want -creating a new TIF or PSD file in the LrC catalog.

 

I question why you want to Export to DNG. I recommend you simply stay with Lightroom-Classic  and all these questions and hassles go away.  Lightroom-Classic is ACR !

 

Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
Known Participant
September 3, 2025

Thanks, Rob

I'm retiring Lightroom Classic and moving to DXO Photolab.
So I'm interested in quickly batch exporting the photos that have been edited so that they're editable in other photo apps (But not generate new files for unedited shots).
I have tens of thousands of images in Lightroom, so I wonder if you have a quick method to do this?

Many thanks

Tom


Legend
September 3, 2025

None of your edits will be usable in DXO software. You'll need to export to PSD or TIFF (to maintain lossless quality) and then do further editing in another tool.

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 5, 2025

As Rob says. Nothing lost, all the camera sensor data are there.

 

But you need to do this first from Lightroom Classic:

 

LrC stores all edits centrally in the catalog database, not in the file. So ACR can't read it unless you first export all this metadata to the files (as a sidecar for proprietary formats, into the file header for DNG).

 

Just so it's said, you can use LrC entirely based on your physical folder structure on disk. That's what I do. The "Folders" panel in LrC operates just like a normal file browser. You don't need to use the catalog-based modes of organization.

OzPhotoMan
Inspiring
February 5, 2025

Interesting.  I am not sure how I have LRC set up, but if I  export one of my LRC edited file to dng, all edits are present in the dng. So it must be set up to save edits in the metada in the dng file. I have used my folder structure when I was using LRC.

My main concern was if I exported to dng from LRC with edits embedded,  if I then proceeded to do further edits would I lose any quality? It appears not.

 

My current PS workflow is basically to use adjustment layers on a single duplicate smart object layer for each process, such as curves, colour balance, etc so if I reopen the file later it is easy to tweak later if I want to re-edit. I also do a lot of edits in ACR first, and of course those are retained in sidecar files as well as the file itself.

jane-e
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 5, 2025

@OzPhotoMan 

 

DNGs do not use a sidecar — the edits are stored in the file. 

 

If you look at the images in Adobe Bridge, you will see a small icon showing that edits have been made. You can right-click the image to copy or clear the edits.

 

Edits in Photoshop have no effect on the RAW file.

 

Jane

 

Rob_Cullen
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 5, 2025

Converting a proprietary raw file to the DNG format does not lose quality at all- the camera sensor data is identical in both.  (Converting RGB files- JPG, TIF, etc, is a waste of effort as the DNG only becomes a 'wrapper' for the RGB file contained within).

Exporting to DNG from Lightroom-Classic will however encapsulate LrC editing in the metadata of the DNG file. The editing metadata will only be visible in other Adobe apps that can read this metadata  (LrC, Lr, ACR, Bridge). In other software, or file viewers, the DNG will appear as original from camera.

 

LrC has no problem using named folders for various versions of files. You do not have to stick with the often recommended 'Dated folder' structure. Your folder structure is entirely your decison.

 

 

Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .