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JohnDG Photography
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October 27, 2024
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Getting more than barganed for (generative fill)

  • October 27, 2024
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Thought I could replace a total grey sky in somewhat more interesting. I made a selection of the sky. Then did a generative fill with the words "clouded sky", also tried "blue sky with clouds". And hoped the selected piece would be filled with only clouds.
No, I got the clouds, the blue sky, and ... a mountain range, shrubs or even a snowy mountain in the generations.
Didn't actually wanted to add anything but a more exciting sky in the picture, not alter the view.

Is there a trick to it, to get only the thing you want without the extra's I didn't ask for ?

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Correct answer D Fosse

Generally, it seems to me people are using generative fill for everything nowadays, when there are much simpler, more appropriate and much less disruptive tools already available.

 

The thing about generative fill is that it's, well, generative. It will put something in there, and you have absolutely no control over what.

 

Sky replacement has been available in Photoshop for many years, and works very well.

 

And then, of course, there is also the matter of exposing the shot properly to begin with. If this is a raw capture, it's even possible that the sky can be recovered in ACR/Lightroom. The raw sensor data contain a lot more highlight information than what you see in the rendered RGB version.

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Trevor.Dennis
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Trevor.DennisCommunity Expert
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October 27, 2024

The best information and advice I know of can be found in the session from the recent Adobe MAX

https://www.adobe.com/max/2024/sessions/advanced-photoshop-techniques-from-two-hollywood-s6305.html

 

If you want to take it a step further, although this is perhaps more complex, check out this video from Jesus Rameriz, who is one of the people in the above MAX session.  It's all solid gold content, but the diamond encrusted solid gold (and I am not talking about the rediculous fake gold watches that Donald Trump is conning people with) content, is towards the end of the video.

 

    JohnDG Photography
    JohnDG PhotographyAuthor
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    October 27, 2024

    Intresting video's on the new features. Thanks.

    D Fosse
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    D FosseCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
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    October 27, 2024

    Generally, it seems to me people are using generative fill for everything nowadays, when there are much simpler, more appropriate and much less disruptive tools already available.

     

    The thing about generative fill is that it's, well, generative. It will put something in there, and you have absolutely no control over what.

     

    Sky replacement has been available in Photoshop for many years, and works very well.

     

    And then, of course, there is also the matter of exposing the shot properly to begin with. If this is a raw capture, it's even possible that the sky can be recovered in ACR/Lightroom. The raw sensor data contain a lot more highlight information than what you see in the rendered RGB version.

      JohnDG Photography
      JohnDG PhotographyAuthor
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      October 27, 2024

      Well, the shot was exposed right. The sky was just dull grey in reality (one of these days it's going to drizzle or not). No even if you used bracketing it still would be grey.
      Seems the classic way of replacing the sky would get the best result.  Before I use my collection of sky pictures to replace the sky iin such case. Wanted to see if the generated fill could get me a bit different options without moving in some extra unwanted stuff.
      Thanks for your thoughts.

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