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May 28, 2023
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How can I fit in a character in space?

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I want to put a man floating in space (don't ask why that man is Rick Astley) and I have no experience in creating lighting in space... any tips on how to make it realistic? 

 

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Correct answer Trevor.Dennis

This is just common sense. You can see what the light source is here, right? Do you think it's logical that backlight should illuminate the subject from the front?

 


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This is just common sense. You can see what the light source is here, right? Do you think it's logical that backlight should illuminate the subject from the front?

 

By @D Fosse

 

That's about how I look at it.  You can see where the light should be hitting, so it comes down to the best ways to darken and lighten the relative areas of the composited image element.

 

Curves set to Luminosity is how I would darken, and my first step to brighten is to duplicate the layer and set to screen.  Add a fully concealed layer mask and paint in the effect.  The composited image is going to be a cutout, so something I use a lot is to Ctrl click to load the selection, and stroke the selection either in the layer mask to reveal a highlight, or directly onto a new layer above the image layer with a white stroke.

 

The bridge below was built with Photoshop for one of our SFTW threads, and has a white stroke to highlight the hard edges.  You can feather the layer mask with mask properties, or make the layer a Smart Object so you can keep fine tuning any feather.

 

Same sort of thing with this photo.  The aircraft's outline was selected with the Pen tool, and selectively stroked with white to lift it from the background.  As before, make the stroke layer a Smart object so you can fine tune any blur, and make sure you save the workpath so you can use it again (that means drag the path to the New Path icon.

 

I use Dodge and Burn a lot on copied layers.  The trick with those tools is using the right tonal range setting (Shadows, midtone, highlights).  Use trial and error to start with — you'll get nasty muddy results using the wrong setting.

 

Shadows are going to be super hard edged in space because there are no reflections to soften them, but you'll need to use artistic license and take some liberties with reality becauuse you'll want to see some detail on the darkside.

 

BTW, I was not going to reply to this thread after your first reply to Nancy. Check out her profile to see how many thousands of people she has helped over the years she has posted here.  We do it because we love the apps, and we learn new things ourselves, and we have no obligation to help folk.  

 

 

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davescm
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 28, 2023

Look at the way the planets are lit. Light from the sun/star falls on the edges. The man should be lit the same way. You can achieve that by painting, but would be much better off starting with an image of Astley that would suit such rim backlighting, for example with his face turned sideways. You can achieve a lot in Photoshop compositing but it is always easier and more effective to start out with suitable images.

 

Dave

Participant
May 28, 2023

I can't find another image of a suit floating like that but I'm sure I can get a better angle of Astley's face, I'll get back to you when I can.

Nancy OShea
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Community Expert
May 28, 2023

Well for one thing, your subject is not a good fit for this picture because of where light and shadow are located on the man's face.  Your image's light is coming from the sun, not the planet. 

 

To look natural in composites, your subjects must mesh with their surroundings. 

https://photoshoptrainingchannel.com/compositing-photoshop-tutorials/

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
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May 28, 2023

But isn't that literally the whole point of photoshop though? Also it appears all the tutorials are centred around compositing realistically in an ordinary atmospheric setting, rather than some miscellaneous locations, such as the vacuum of space. Are there any directive tips you can kindly hand over to me? Or else why did you comment if you have nothing of value to help me with? Your comment assumes I have already made an attempt, a very bad one, at lighting in my composite hoowever you are sorely mistaken. Any help would be much appreciated, but here's a little advice: don't comment if you don't have anything helpful to say.

Nancy OShea
Community Expert
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May 28, 2023
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But isn't that literally the whole point of photoshop though? 

 

Any help would be much appreciated, but here's a little advice: don't comment if you don't have anything helpful to say.


By @GradientOGames

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Photoshop is a great tool in the right hands. But it's only a tool and not a replacement for understanding fundamental art concepts such as complimentary shadow/light, vanishing points and perspectives. At this point, enrolling in art class is all I can suggest.

 

You're welcome.  🙂

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert