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How to organize ICC profiles for Photoshop?

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January 19, 2022
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I work for a fine art printing company. We have custom printer profiles for all our papers/printers…. This means there are *a lot* of profile options to scroll through in the print dialog box in photoshop. I notice that when Epson profiles are installed, they are grouped together, under a horizontal rule, when choosing profiles to print with. Does anyone have any idea how I can do that, myself? I’ve tried collecting all the custom profiles into a sub-folder in the library/ColorSync folder, but that hasn’t changed anything. It would be really nice to figure out how to have them grouped together, preferable at the top of the menu when printing.

We’re using a iMac on Big Sur. I know all about how to install/rename profiles… I’d really like to be able to group them in the photoshop print dialog box. Any ideas?

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TheDigitalDog

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One other thing to try is the free Epson Print Layout IF your Epson's are supported. It filters only profiles for specific Epson's selected as seen below. Or you can edit what shows up:

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nateStaticAuthor

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We're using P10000 & 20000 printers... not yet supported, somehow. And since they discontinued the 10000 in favor of the inferior 9570 (we got one, tried to use it for a few weeks, then gave up on it), my guess is support is not forthcoming 😕😕

NB, colourmanagement

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I had a chat to Epson about the SC-P10000 and 20000 recently, the guy I dealt with suggested that they expect most owners of such machines to be using RIP software, essentially.

So I guess they may not add support for those in their print layout SW.

I hope this helps
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NB, colourmanagement

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"ICC Profiles folders respect sub folders. Place your profiles in a named folder by device, then in seperate folder inside that by paper. Place all of those folders in your systems ICC proiles folder. After that they will all be perfectly organized.

By Bob_Hallam

Bob, I'm not sure the way the Epson profiles are displayed can be reproduced for your own profiles [on Mac at least I've not seen that work].

Putting profiles in Photoshop's recommended folder would place them high up in the dialog inside Photoshop. I think the Epson profiles appear separately like that because they are placed away in a folder [in a package] installed by Epson which Photoshop can access - probably via a symbolic link.

It would be a nice feature to have though for sure - a "user" profiles folder, with sub divisions.

What I do is name the profiles very representatively starting with printer/paper so that at least groups them together logically. [In case toy didn’t know, be very careful renaming profiles, renaming in the finder leads to confusion as it does nti change the "internal" profile name which is the displayed name in most applications. An application like the fantastic tool Colorthink can allow edits to the filename aswell as the internal name

I hope this helps
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nateStaticAuthor

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Yeah, my workaround has been to re-name the profiles, so they group together. I'd love it if there were a way to group them, with arrows next to each group that would show/hide them in the list. Maybe some future application/os will allow such stuff.

Thanks for your responses, everyone!

TheDigitalDog

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ICC profiles have two places for naming; those in the Finder (file name) and an internal name in the profile tag. Photoshop (and most applications) read the internal name. You'll need some utility that can edit those internal names. On the Mac, the ColorSync utility can do it. As for arrows and such, nope.

Below you can see the two fields you can change and save, although I have to suggest, it's not an ideal process (backup the profile first).

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Bob_Hallam

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ICC Profiles folders respect sub folders. Place your profiles in a named folder by device, then in seperate folder inside that by paper. Place all of those folders in your systems ICC proiles folder. After that they will all be perfectly organized.

ICC programmer and developer, Photographer, artist and color management expert, Print standards and process expert.

NB, colourmanagement

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Hi Bob, do you feel that doing what you describe organises the way the profiles appear within Photoshop dialogs, eg when using the device profile pulldown in "Photoshop Manages Color"? I think that’s what the OP had in mind.

I've never seen that happen but would love to know if its possible?.

AFAIK, you're right that sub-folders are respected and that’s an ideal way to sort profiles in the file menu, but I don't think that affects positioning in the pulldown list inside a Photoshop dialog? Have you been able to make that work?

I hope this helps
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