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Unicycle Rob
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February 28, 2019
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How to upscale for 10 foot tall poster with only 5000 px images!?

  • February 28, 2019
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I'm creating a banner that has a height of 10 feet and am trying to find images big enough to fit the height (Mainly famous towers from all over the world). Everything I come across is only at most 5000px in height. This banner will be used for a broadcast set backdrop. So I was wondering if there is a way to make images bigger without having to loose much resolution? How do the guys who make highway banners for a living?!

Thanks for your help! I truly appreciate it!

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Correct answer davescm

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Unicycle+Rob  wrote

How do the guys who make highway banners for a living?!

Billboard posters are printed at very low resolution - 10-15ppi is quite sufficient due to the viewing distance. Our eyes can only resolve a certain angle and the further we step away from the print , the greater the area covered by that angle. So squeezing in more pixels that our eyes cannot resolve is a waste.

There is a formula that lets you calculate the dpi required for a viewing distance in inches. It is

ppi required = 2/(viewing distance in inches x 0.000291)

You mention the purpose of the image is a backdrop for TV.  Assuming that the TV broadcast is in 4K UHD resolution, the resolving power of the camera is limited to 3840 width  x 2160 pixels height.  It could be the case of course that the camera is framed to show only part of your image - but given that this is a background image it is unlikely the camera will be sharply focused on that background which reduces the requirement for high resolution.  It will be worth checking with your client what resolution is required on that final backdrop - it will not be 300 ppi for a 10 feet high image.

Dave

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OldBob1957
Inspiring
February 28, 2019

Just as a final note; the article linked below is a good one for explaining resolution VS viewing distance. I keep it bookmarked.

What print resolution works for what viewing distance?

--OB

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 28, 2019

Dave is spot on.

I'll just add my own rule of thumb. Print it out and pin it on the wall:

If it works for a magazine spread, it will work for a wall-sized banner or a roadside billboard.

Don't upsample unless it's absolutely necessary - which it probably isn't here.

davescm
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davescmCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
February 28, 2019

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Unicycle+Rob  wrote

How do the guys who make highway banners for a living?!

Billboard posters are printed at very low resolution - 10-15ppi is quite sufficient due to the viewing distance. Our eyes can only resolve a certain angle and the further we step away from the print , the greater the area covered by that angle. So squeezing in more pixels that our eyes cannot resolve is a waste.

There is a formula that lets you calculate the dpi required for a viewing distance in inches. It is

ppi required = 2/(viewing distance in inches x 0.000291)

You mention the purpose of the image is a backdrop for TV.  Assuming that the TV broadcast is in 4K UHD resolution, the resolving power of the camera is limited to 3840 width  x 2160 pixels height.  It could be the case of course that the camera is framed to show only part of your image - but given that this is a background image it is unlikely the camera will be sharply focused on that background which reduces the requirement for high resolution.  It will be worth checking with your client what resolution is required on that final backdrop - it will not be 300 ppi for a 10 feet high image.

Dave

Trevor.Dennis
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 28, 2019

Hi Bob, or do you prefer unicycle?

What is the poster's content?  If it is not simple a raster photograph, but has vector contend like text and graphics, then they will obviously print perfectly sharp, and IME that tends to pull the scene together.  The eye has sharp lines to lock on to, and does not worry about a pixelated image behind the graphic content.

You can try some  sharpening processes  to improved the upressed image.  It is a great pity that Jeff Schewe's The Art of the UpRes has completely disappeared  from the internet.  Jeff is  world expert on this stuff, and still has lots of useful information online.

https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=76058.0

jeff schewe - YouTube

Marja de Klerk
Inspiring
February 28, 2019

The way Michelle scales the image works good for me too. I use 110% to avoid distortion and have recorded this in an Action. This way you only have to push the button in the Actions panel to repeat the scaling. 

mglush
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 28, 2019

I have had really good results by using the Image Size command (Cmd-Option-I), setting the drop down menu next to the Width and Height to Percent and using a value of 150%. I will then repeat it until I get the desired height or width.

I agree with the suggestion above, that the first thing you should do is talk with whoever will be printing this for you to see what resolution they need. If it is a video wall, the resolution will be a fixed number and not a multiple of pixels per inch. It's always important to know the end goal of your resolution when you start.

mglush
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 28, 2019

Here is the Image size dialog box so you can see the settings. 

Let us know if you have any questions!

Michelle

Daniel E Lane
Inspiring
February 28, 2019

you can get away with a pretty good amount of upscaling in Photoshop. But it only goes so far before it will start to look bad. And as Michael stated, you can also use a lower resolution to some extent for larger prints because of the distance away the viewer will need to be to see it right. OnOne used to make a product called Genuine Fractals that did an amazing job of enlarging images up to the size of billboards. It took a while to render that stuff out, but the final product was pretty darn good. You might want to look into that.

Michael Bullo
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 28, 2019

Hi Rob,

The main question here is what resolution do you need. We are used to printing things like brochures at 300dpi. However, for things that are viewed at a distance we can get away with far lower resolutions. This is great because it means we can scale our images to much larger sizes. Talk to the people who will be printing this for you and ask them to guide you on the minimum resolution required.

You might also find yourself asked by the printer to prepare a high resolution file but one that is smaller than the print size. One place that printed a bunch of pull up banners for me had me prepare high quality files that were only a quarter of the size. The files were small enough to transfer and they would then scale them up at their end for printing.

Cheers,

Michael