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Image > Canvas Size bug

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December 19, 2024
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When expanding a cropped image to the original dimensions (after cropping about 1/4 off the top), with the center anchor point selected, there are two issues: 1) the expansion is not symmetrical, and 2) the expansion color is grayed out.

With OS 14.4, there is no background layer. I attempted to work around these issues by creating a white filled background layer, but was unsuccessful for both issues.

macOS

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zeke_smithAuthor

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? - there are no phone numbers (or anything else) in my profile. I'm
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D Fosse

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@zeke_smith

OK. Here's what you do. Open a file and go to the menu Layer > Flatten Image. Click it. That produces a Background layer.

If Flatten Image is grayed out, it means it already is a Background layer.

Either way, it now looks like this in the panel, and this is a Background layer:

zeke_smithAuthor

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If I understand you, the first and only layer when opening a new file is
the background layer. Does it have any special properties?
If I copy the first (background) later, and delete the background layer, I
used to be able to convert the now bottom layer into a "background" layer
from the layer menu. That command is not in my layer menu now.
I have a vague recollection that the background layer did have unique
properties - perhaps that it was protected? Now it is simply the bottom
layer. I lock it so the original file is always available.
Is there more to it than this?

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jane-e

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The option to create a background layer from the add content layer panel is no longer available
By @zeke_smith

It's in the Layers menu not the Layer panel.

zeke_smithAuthor

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Not there either - it is gone.
Opening a new file, the first layer is the imported content. It's locked,
but otherwise, no different than any other content layer.
What PS version are you using when you insist there is a background layer?
I'd like to be wrong, but I've looked everywhere I can think of.
FWIW, my experience is confirmed by chatGPT which presumably has scraped
this information from somewhere other than me.

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jane-e

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With Mac OS 14.4, it's my understanding that there no longer is a background layer. (That's my experience, and FWIW, confirmed by ChatGPT). I tried making one - a bottom layer labeled "background", but it has none of the previous background layer characteristics.
By @zeke_smith

Naming a layer "Background" does not make it a background layer. To convert a regular pixel layer to a Background layer, do this:

Select a layer in the Layers panel.
Choose Layer menu > New > Background From Layer. Any transparent areas in the original layer are filled with the background color.

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zeke_smithAuthor

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The option to create a background layer from the add content layer panel is
no longer available. Maybe that option still exists with windows computers.

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zeke_smithAuthor

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My PS version is 26.2.0.

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D Fosse

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@zeke_smith

This has nothing to do with MacOS. This is Photoshop, and Photoshop has different types of layers. It sounds like you may want to look more closely at what they are.

Bojan Živković11378569

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"the cropped out portion of the image is restored
to the original - i.e., it is no longer cropped."

Ensure that you do not crop content on the Smart Object layer, and verify that the "Delete Cropped Pixels" option is checked in the Options bar, as illustrated in the screenshot below.

zeke_smithAuthor

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The layer was a Smart Object. Thanks.

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D Fosse

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The difference between a flat Background layer and a floating layer is fundamental. They behave very differently.

A background layer is very simple, locked in position, and has all other layer properties stripped out. It is always named Background in italics. To turn it into a floating layer, double-click it. This enables transparency, layer opacity, blend modes etc etc:

zeke_smithAuthor

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With Mac OS 14.4, it's my understanding that there no longer is a
background layer. (That's my experience, and FWIW, confirmed by ChatGPT). I
tried making one - a bottom layer labeled "background", but it has none of
the previous background layer characteristics.

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D Fosse

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If you have a floating layer, there is no extension color. It will just be transparent. This is normal and expected. A canvas extension color only applies if it's a flat Background layer. No bug there.

As for "not symmetrical" you need to tell us what unit you're expanding by, and what you get on each side. What is the size of the document in pixels? A screenshot would help.

zeke_smithAuthor

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Floating layer: I don't know what that is. The issue occurs with a single
content layer.

Regarding the asymmetrical expansion, I tried to recreate it to respond
here. I discovered that when I reported the issue, I thought I was working
on a dng file; in fact it was a previously edited psd file. While assymetry
still seems strange, I withdraw the complaint for now.
However, what I discovered when trying to recreate the issue, now working
with the dng original, after performing a crop, and then perform the canvas
size expansion (again, with a single content later), the expansion color
checkbox is grayed out as before, and while the expansion portion of the
image is now symmetrical, the cropped out portion of the image is restored
to the original - i.e., it is no longer cropped. I have the same result
both with and without saving the cropped pixels while cropping.

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