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Terri Stevens
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December 6, 2017
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Major Windows 10 update today

  • December 6, 2017
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Hello everyone,

Microsoft released a major Windows 10 update yesterday with new product features. I've only been testing it for a few hours, but it seems to be stable with Photoshop 2018 which is a relief. One thing you might like to be aware of is the update leaves behind a massive amount of junk. On my machine I had 50GB of temporary files and the ability to revert to the previous Windows 10 version. Not much of a problem on a hard disk but definitely an issue with an SSD. It you want to remove the junk type 'clean' into Cortana and run 'disk cleanup' for the system files.

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    gener7
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    December 7, 2017

    For some odd reason Microsoft Update tried to install the package for AMD and I have Intel/64x.

    So it was nice that Microsoft provided stand alone installers and I just got the correct one.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4051963/windows-10-update-kb4051963

    davescm
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    December 7, 2017

    Funny that Gene. I checked mine (also Intel x64 system) and it had installed the one labelled "for AMD". So I stepped back and tried the catalogue. The only one in the catalogue for Intel  x64 was for Windows Server.

    So I've just let the auto update do its thing again.

    Dave

    December 7, 2017

    According to here, this is quite normal

    https://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/97987-cumulative-update-kb4048955-windows-10-v1709-build-16299-64-a-2.html

    Windows 10 Forums

    "AMD64" refers to the 64-bit evolution of the x86 architecture which is now standard in the market. Basically, Intel promoted the incompatible IA-64 (aka Itanium) in partnership with HP, but for various reasons it didn't work out in the marketplace. (Originally it was designed as a server architecture and there was very little software written for it.)

    AMD developed its own evolutionary and backwards-compatible 64-bit architecture, working closely with Microsoft. It was known as AMD64. Eventually Intel realized it had lost and caved in, producing its EM64T implementation of the same thing.

    Intel and AMD later entered into a cross-licensing agreement (in part due to Intel's shady rebate deals effectively excluding AMD from the marketplace), and so there is a lot of commonality, although still fierce competition about the creation and adoption of extensions, and their adoption within the market (which Intel has mostly won, consider SSE/AVX vs. 3DNow!).

    Taking a step back, this indicates is that there are also versions of this update package for other architectures, which has always been the case (including the original x86, Itanium, Power, and ARM chips used mostly in tablets).

    If you look here C:\windows\winSxS you'll see reference to amd64

    Trevor.Dennis
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    December 6, 2017

    I installed the Falls update a while back, but I went looking for it rather than wait for my system to tell me it was ready.  Even Adobe staggers its updates (by time zone I believe) to lessen the impact on the update servers, so imagine if every Windows 10 installation in the world simultaneously downloaded several gigabytes.   I think Adobe hire server space from Amazon for large updates.  There will be a lot less people, but full CC subscriptions would come to some gigabytes.

    Thanks for the disk clean up tip though.  I checked and found I was down to just 21Gb of free space.  That's gone up to 42Gb, but this is a temporary build, so I have not bothered doing my normal trick of moving every thing off the boot drive.  I normally reckon on >80Gb of free space on a 250Gb SSD.  For some reason this build is booting very quickly, and I am not sure why.  It goes from pressing the button to enter the password in less than 30 seconds.  I'll check and edit this post.

    [EDIT]  Better than I thought. 17 seconds to the password screen, and another 7 seconds for the desktop icons to appear.

    D Fosse
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    December 6, 2017

    Trevor.Dennis  wrote

    [EDIT]  Better than I thought. 17 seconds to the password screen, and another 7 seconds for the desktop icons to appear.

    Pretty good. 29 seconds total here, but I don't have a password on this machine. I don't have any desktop icons either, for that matter.

    But system disk capacity, after three months, is still very good:

    I bet most of the junk is under your user account, Trevor. That's where it accumulates. You're the one who tipped me about WinDirStat, which I've found enormously useful. It basically tells you that all that used space isn't where you think it is...

    davescm
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    December 6, 2017

    Good info on clean up Terri - just as long as anyone doing this is aware they are removing the ability to step back

    Dave

    Terri Stevens
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    December 6, 2017

    good point Dave. Trouble is this update is largely vulnerability fixes, so do we really have much alternative other than to keep it or be vulnerable to exploits? 

    December 6, 2017

    Hi Terri

    Can you do me a favour, click on Windows 10 start button and type winver and hit return and see what version your on

    If this is the version you have then is the Windows 10 was the Fall Creators update which as I mentioned was released in Oct, useless of course you're in the Windows Fast Ring or Insider Program

    Chuck Uebele
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    December 6, 2017

    Thanks for the cleanup info!

    December 6, 2017

    Hi Terri

    The last major update to Windows 10 was the Fall Creators update which was released in October, unless I'm missing something

    Windows 10’s Fall Creators Update arrives on October 17th - The Verge

    Terri Stevens
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    December 6, 2017

    Hi Ged ,

    I think you will find you will get the update shortly -it depends on your Windows Update settings. Microsoft at least warns it takes an age to install-for me it was an hour and ten minutes and two system restarts.

    December 6, 2017

    Hi Terri

    This is the latest version I have and there's only this Cumulative Update KB4051963 Windows 10 v1709 Build 16299.98

    More info

    Windows 10 Forums