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Rechner arbeitet "zu" langsam im 3D Bereich...?!?

  • December 21, 2018
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Habe einen relativ neuen (1,5 Jahre) + relativ leistungsstarken ASUS-Rechner (RAM 8GB, Intel Core i7-6700 HQ CPU 2,6GHz, 64 Bit/ W10). 90% RAM Memory-Zuteilung in den Preferences...

Habe noch wenig Erfahrung (früher etwas mit 3D-Max) im 3D Bereich von Photoshop (CC 2015).

Um die Grundbausteine kennenzulernen, habe ich ein einfaches Tutorial (https://goo.gl/3m7n91) benutzt. Nunmehr zeigt der Rechner hierbei für mein Gefühl (erste Erfahrungen wie gesagt mit 3D-Max auf einen älteren, viel schwächeren ASUS Rechner mit W7 > HIER KAUM VERZÖGERUNGEN) schon bei einfachen Vorgängen (also nocht nicht einmal Rendern, sondern drehen vom Objekt, Werte eingeben zB.) schwache bis ausgeprägte Verzögerungen bis zuweilen sogar Memoryprotest (bei mehrmaliger Materialzuweisungsänderung zB)...?!?

Natürlich sind meine Formulierungen im Hinblick auf konkrete Erklärungen/Maßnahmen teilweise recht schwammig - zudem ich allerdings bei diesem Rechner bei beschriebenen Aktionen im Grunde noch keine wirklichen Trägheiten vermutet hätte; auch unter Maßgabe, daß naturgemäß 3D mehr Ressourcen in Anspruch nimmt - doch hoffe ich, daß es vielleicht irgendetwas Grundlegendes gibt, an dem man einstellungstechnisch/arbeitsweisespezifisch "schrauben" kann, um eine Verbesserung zu initieren...?!?

Danke für potentielles Interesse und Mitteilungen!

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    davescm
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    December 21, 2018

    Hi

    The preview view in 3D relies heavily on your GPU. Can you go to Help>System info and press copy. Then post the details here which will show us your set up.

    Dave

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    December 21, 2018

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    Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

    Have a relatively new (1.5 years) + relatively powerful ASUS computer (RAM 8GB, Intel Core i7-6700 HQ CPU 2.6GHz, 64 Bit/ W10). 90% RAM memory allocation in the preferences...

    I still have little experience (earlier something with 3D-Max) in the 3D area of Photoshop (CC 2015).

    To get to know the basic building blocks, I used a simple tutorial (https://goo.gl/3m7n91). Now the calculator shows for my feeling (first experiences with 3D-Max on an older, much weaker ASUS calculator with W7 > HERE NO DELAY) weak to pronounced delays already with simple procedures (thus not even rendering, but turning of the object, entering values e.g.) up to sometimes even Memoryprotest (with repeated material assignment change e.g.)...?!?

    Of course my formulations with regard to concrete explanations/measures are partly quite spongy - besides I would not have suspected any real inertia with this computer, however; also under the condition that naturally 3D takes up more resources - but I hope that there is perhaps something fundamental, at which one can "screw" attitude-technically/work-specifically, in order to initiate an improvement...?!?

    Thank you for your potential interest and messages!

    Correct answer
    December 21, 2018

    Hi

    Looks like you're using a non genuine version of Photoshop

    License Type: Tryout Version

    Serial number: Tryout Version

    Install date 2015/05/29

    You may want to read this

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