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December 2, 2021
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Creating a library of clips in Organizer from a monolithic AVI file.

  • December 2, 2021
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Please forgive me if I have missed something and this is easy, or is something that can only be done in advanced tools like Premiere Pro.

 

I have a collection of 2 hour AVI master files (from Video8/Digital8/MiniDV tapes). Each AVI file has its own project in APE 2022. For each project I have cut the AVI file into a number of separate video clips on the timeline. All good - no problems so far. 

 

In an ideal world, I would like to drag each clip in a project from the timeline to the Elements Organizer such that the clips appear as individual media objects in Organizer which I can individually tag (people, events, locations) and subsequently use as source material in future projects.

 

After exploring the program and the forums I don't see any easy way to do this. Is this possible without exporting each clip individually or recapturing the tape library with scene detection turned on which would result in the master AVI file actually becoming a collection of individual clips?

 

If the only way to achieve this in APE 2022 is to export each clip, are their recommendations for the export process (e.g. use AVI Uncompressed)? I'm concerned that exporting will lead to some generational quality loss due to the re-compression process. I'm trying to retain the original quality of the AVI clips - just make them individual objects in Organizer.

 

Any recommendations or best practices to achieve this goal? Any tricks that I may be missing to avoid having to export each clip individually? 

 

Thank you for any tips/help you can offer. 

 

Grant

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Legend
December 2, 2021

There is no tool in Premiere Elements for automatically breaking a long video into short videos.

 

There will not be any noticeable loss of quality when you output a video from Premiere Elements. Outputting it as an uncompressed AVI will not change that.

 

However, much depends on the specs of your original video. You say it's an AVI -- but what codec does that AVI use? And what is that AVIs resolution and frame rate? And what resolution and frame rate are you outputting each segment as?

Participating Frequently
December 2, 2021

Thanks for the quick reply Steve. The specs of a typical file in the library is shown below. The output specs would be similar since I'm simply trying to create separate clips that can be tagged in Organizer and used in future projects. 

 

Also, are you saying that any video output format will result in no perceptible loss? If so I guess I would just chose H.264 to save disk space. 

 

Thanks again.

 

General
Complete name : C:\Multimedia\Raw Video Files\2021 - Tape 002.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name : DV
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 25.7 GiB
Duration : 2 h 3 min
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 29.9 Mb/s
TAPE : 2021-Tape 02 Young Kids
TCOD : 1671863860333
TCDO : 1745725982000
VMAJ : 4
VMIN : 0
STAT : 221365 0 3.426018 1
DTIM : 0 0

Video
ID : 0
Format : DV
Codec ID : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint : Sony
Duration : 2 h 3 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Original frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Stream size : 24.7 GiB (96%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings : Little / Signed
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 2 h 3 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 024 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 32.0 kHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 902 MiB (3%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 267 ms (8.00 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration : 266 ms

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 2, 2021

What you need is some sort of avi cutter which will cut the file optical as there are no breaks in the timestamp anymore.

 

Uncompressed avi's are huge not suited for editing.

In Elements you can export to dv avi which is probably your best option.