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How do I export without re-encoding? [PrEl 11]

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July 11, 2013
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I've been searching and having no luck finding an answer to this. Maybe I'm just not finding the right terms. Or maybe I'm missing something obvious. LOL! At any rate, hopefully someone can help me out.

I go through my original video files and cut out the bad bits and save individual short clips from that which I then use to build the movies. Years ago, I would use VirtualDub for this because it was fast and easy. But getting it to work with modern DSLR files is more hassle than I feel like doing. So I've been using PrEl for this initial step as well. The problem is, I can't see any way to just export the trimmed clips without re-encoding them. It's not a huge deal as the extra re-encode doesn't seem to cause any visible degredation. Still, though, it would be faster and cleaner to simply export the trimmed clips as is without the re-encoding like I did with VirtualDub. Only I can't figure out how to get PrEl to do so. Anyone know?

Thanks,

Michelle

*Waves at the oldies that were on here when I was back when PrEl first came out*

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Correct answer MichelleCox

Because this thread has meandered, I'm going to sum up the answer for anyone in the future who may search on this.

Premiere Elements can't do the "smart edit" with this codec, though, according to Steve, it can with some like DV-AVI.
Premiere Elements can do an uncompressed save, which is an option, though the tradeoff is uncompressed video is quite large. See this post: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3791571#3791571
There are other programs out there that are capable of doing a "smart edit" with h264. Some are mentioned in the thread but I'm not going to list them in the summary because I'm not sure how ok it is to link to other software from this forum. If this is important to you, Google will turn them up.

Hope that helps future searchers.

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MichelleCoxAuthorCorrect answer

Inspiring

Because this thread has meandered, I'm going to sum up the answer for anyone in the future who may search on this.

Premiere Elements can't do the "smart edit" with this codec, though, according to Steve, it can with some like DV-AVI.
Premiere Elements can do an uncompressed save, which is an option, though the tradeoff is uncompressed video is quite large. See this post: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3791571#3791571
There are other programs out there that are capable of doing a "smart edit" with h264. Some are mentioned in the thread but I'm not going to list them in the summary because I'm not sure how ok it is to link to other software from this forum. If this is important to you, Google will turn them up.

Hope that helps future searchers.

S

Steve Grisetti

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Like virtually all video editors, in Premiere Elements you are not editing your original video. You are adding your video to a project and then you are outputting your finished, edited piece from that finished project. That virtually always involves re-encoding.

The program can smart-render some formats (like DV-AVI), when your output specs match your project and source footage specs precisely. But this is not likely with your DSLR footage.

On the other hand, there is little need. You will see virtually no reduction in quality from output video, when your project is properly set up. But, more important, there is no reason your output video should be identical in specs to your source videoe.

Your source video has been optimized for a specific purpose: To provide you with the maximum editable quality within its limited storage area.

Likewise, your output video will be optimized for a specific purpose. What do you plan to do with your finished video? Add it to a DVD or BluRay disc? Post it online? Use it as source footage in another video project? There are output specs that are optimized for each of those uses -- the ideal size-to-quality ratio.

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MichelleCoxAuthor

Inspiring

You are adding your video to a project and then you are outputting your finished, edited piece from that finished project.

No, I'm not. I'm simply using PrEl to chop up my source video. I'm not doing any editing beyond that and it's certainly not a finished project. Maybe I'm just asking too much from the program. I'm not a typical user that would be happy with just clicking a button for an automovie. LOL!

What do you plan to do with your finished video?

I plan to replace the original source video with it. I want to pull in the video I recorded, chop it up into usable bits that gets rid of the bad bits, save it, and then delete the original. I would prefer to save it without recompressing because that usually has some quality loss, even if it's very minor, and I hate to introduce that into what will now be my source video. Plus, it would be faster if it wasn't recompressing it.

The program can smart-render some formats (like DV-AVI), when your output specs match your project and source footage specs precisely. But this is not likely with your DSLR footage.

In the past, I've worked wtih DV-AVI source and was able to quickly chop it up in VirtualDub. Now that I'm using DSLR footage, it's in the 'H.264/MPEG-4 AVC' codec. If I'm understanding correctly, this codec does not allow for slicing and re-saving without re-encoding? Or is this just a Premiere Elements limitation? If the latter, then I'll just resume my efforts to get VirtualDub working with the codec. Or possibly move up to something like Premiere Pro? Can the big boys handle this?

Sorry if this is a silly question... I've been in the world of stills for far too long and my video knowledge is rusty. Plus, the world has moved on from my trusty old DV-AVI and I'm not very familiar with these new fangled HD codecs.

Thanks,

Michelle

PS: Nice to see a familiar name. I didn't know if any of the originals were still around after all these years. Funny that I used to be the one answering questions around here and now here I am feeling like a newb. LOL

John T Smith

Community Expert

>No, I'm not (doing what Steve said re:project)

Yes you are... putting one video on the timeline and marking in/out points to export (share) a new file is editing a project

Premiere (Elements or Pro) does not alter your original file... the commands you enter in your project (in/out points, etc) simply tell Premiere what to do when you export to a new file... your original file is unchanged

Some learning links

Online User Guide http://help.adobe.com/en_US/premiereelements/using/index.html

-Page to download current PDF http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-elements.html

Importing Video http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1065281

-and project settings http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1112086

Saving & Sharing http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1137128

-Sharing to DVD or BluRay http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1137645

-Sharing for Movies http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1051093

-Sharing for Computer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1058237

Steve's Basic Training Tutorials... steps are the same for several versions

-start at http://forums.adobe.com/thread/537685

-and http://tv.adobe.com/search/?q=Premiere+Elements