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Sep 15, 2019 3:28 AM UTC
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File Size excessive from Premiere Rush

I have seen posts elsewhere complaining about the excessively large file size created by Premiere Pro, eg thread "Estimated File size 322MB, Real File size 1.6GB" ), and I'm finding the same issue in Rush (Windows 10 Desktop version).   Yes I have read all the posts about reducing quality etc., but the file size is still excessive.    Unfortunately the solution of turning off hardware encoding as I have seen in a couple of forums including the thread above cannot be done in Rush as the option does not exist.        So... any solutions ?      Just for comparison, I did exactly the same project in the Windows 10 Photos App (yes you can edit Videos in there!)   and the output file size was much more sensible, and yes I was comparing apples to apples in terms of the codec and quality etc. as closely as possible.    Unfortunately the App doesn't quite have all the features I want. hence looking at Rush

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    Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
    Legend
    Sep 16, 2019 11:51 PM UTC

    Hello Dangermouserd,

    Unfortunately, longer videos and/or 4K videos do take up a good amount of storage no matter what you do. A video that is over 1 GB in size, even in H.264 format, is completely normal, particularly if it is 4K and over 10 min. in length. How would you describe your video in terms of codec, frame size, and duration? File sizes in video are large, typically, and it's hard to get around that. What is the issue with 1 GB videos? Do you need additional storage?

     

    Hardware encoding doesn't affect the file size as much as frame size, frame rate, codec, and duration. I would say that it's not a significant factor when comparing it with a standard H.264 export.

     

    The Windows app has a different framework, uses different code, and encodes files differently than Rush. That would be difficult to compare, so I'd avoid doing so.

     

    Come back with further questions.

     

    Thank You,
    Kevin

     

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    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
    Participant
    Sep 17, 2019 10:15 AM UTC
    Thanks Kevin for replying. What I do not understand is that I start with a file that is about 60Mb, then do some minor editing in Rush (crop, trim etc.), and the exported file is well over 1Gb (1.6 from memory). I checked frame rate and made sure that whereas the original mp4 was 25 fps, the output was also 25. I had not changed resolution etc. etc. So did everything to ensure I wasnt inadvertantly exporting in a way that would radically increase the file size. If I editd that same source using something basic like the Windows 10 editor, or a WinX product, the output file remained pretty much the same size as the input file and the encoder and other parameters looked the same as what I selected in Rush.. I respect that Rush might be encoding differently, but if so then must surely be some way to get it to produce a similar size file, especially as it is a more powerful program and also considering Rush's target market. Looking at simialr comments in this community one person explicitly said that selecting software encoding fixed the issue, and I saw a second post confirming this (both Adobe Premiere Pro). Now technically this should not make a big difference as you say ...but it did, so the questions is why ? Something is going on. As to why I want smaller files, well obviously if I am sharing files I'd rather share 60Mb than 1.6Gb, especially when I started with 60Mb and made a few tweaks.
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    Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
    Legend
    Sep 19, 2019 12:23 AM UTC
    Did you add any titles or effects? Let me know. Thx, ^KM
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    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio