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jsdigiovanni11233225
Participant
September 18, 2012

I tried the option "Save data in interactive or fillable forms (File > Save As > Reader Extended PDF > Enable Adding Text In Documents)" but my Acrobat menu item says ..."that are not fillable forms" at the end of the command recommended. This results in the form fields going away, in favor of the Typewriter option when the PDF is opened with Reader X. That method doesn't work for me - errors related to OCSP, and even without those errors (they mysteriously went away), editing the fields is too cumbersome. I just want to create the form from an existing PDF, and save it in a manner that allows users with just Reader to fill in the form and save it.

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Test Screen Name
Legend
September 18, 2012

I'm pretty sure you can enable the typewriter tool OR have fillable form fields, you can't have both (and I'm not entirely sure why you'd want to...)?

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jsdigiovanni11233225
Participant
September 18, 2012

I don't want both. I want the fillable form fields, but also want users of Reader to be able to save the PDF with any info they fill into the form fields.

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kennykellogg
Participant
September 18, 2012

I don't want the end user to sign the doc. Can I bypass the whole "place sig" in order to save. I just want them to fill out the form and save. No sig necessary

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Test Screen Name
Legend
September 18, 2012

You absolutely should not be using any tricks with signatures to allow users to add text to a form when signing isn't wanted. It looks as if Adobe have closed this loophole in the latest updates. You need to specifically enable saving, not signing.

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FormGuy99
Participant
September 7, 2012

I just want to say that this is the craziest policy that I have ever read. From the form maker perspective, it is impossible to track compliance. I understand that I can create a form and extend save rights for use with Reader and unlimited amount of times. However, I can only receive back and use only 500 completed forms, whether that is a printed copy or electronic. How in the world am I supposed to count how many times a completed form is returned to the company?

I cannot wait to tell my sales team that they need to report every time a form was returned by the customer. And worse, I cannot wait for the discussion where I tell sales to retunr the form - that is number 501. Stop now!

As the general counsel for a company, how in the world am I to sign off on something like this?

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gkaiseril
Inspiring
September 7, 2012

The previous policy was you needed to purchase the LiveCycle Server product.

Do you ever wonder who writes the EULA?

It is not marketing, but they may come up with the concept and let another professional make it a legal document.

And the solution for that policy was to submit and FDF from the PDF form to a web server and process that data into a web based SQL database. No rights issue, just access to the Internet. Now there is the LiveCycle Designer for forms that directly interface to a database.

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Jeff_Luckett
Participant
September 6, 2012

I'm still fuzzy on some of the limited 500 thing.

The wording in "Number of deployed..." states: "...can collect only 500 responses from the filled-in form. This includes both hard copy and electronic submissions..." While the wording under "Number of recipients..." states:"The Acrobat customer can send an unlimited number of copies of the extended doc to those 500 recipients and collect unlimited responses from the filled-in form."

I work for a large company and have a form created and I may need more than 500 people to be able and fill out the form and save it to their computer. They will then email the completed form or print it and submit it at a later date. Am I able to do this or not?

Thanks!

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gkaiseril
Inspiring
September 6, 2012

If you expect more than 500 returns for one form, then you need to talk to an Adobe sales representative and your corporate attorney about the issue and look at the LiveCycle ES Right Server product.

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Jeff_Luckett
Participant
September 6, 2012

Thanks for the help!

I am told now that the form is a kind of "diary" that the end users will keep up with making entries for a month. They may print the form at the end of the use. Can more than 500 people download the form, fill it out and save it then maybe print it out? I was not sure if the 500 limited mattered since the users do not return the PDF.

Thanks.

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L Skipper
Participant
August 13, 2012

Can you provide more explanation surrounding the digital signature? Is a digital signature where a client would "type in" their name or would a digital sigature be where a client would use a stylus and sign their name?

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gkaiseril
Inspiring
August 13, 2012

A 'digital signature" is a digital object that is unique to an individual like a pen and ink signature. The user creates a special certificate to which the user is the only one to have the password. There is a private key used but he user to apply the certificate to a signature field and then there is a public key that the user can provide to others to verify the digital signature. If the proper certificate system is used the digital signature can be a legally binding as a pen and ink signature in a commercial or legal situation.

This if different than a facsimile image of a pen and ink signature.

Creating Digital Signatures In Adobe®  Acrobat

Improve document authenticity and integrity

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Anonymous
August 6, 2012

I have a form that has the additional features enabled, but it will not let the user sign the form. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Amanda

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RBrams
Participant
June 30, 2012

If I'm working in Reader (Version 10.1.2) on a non rights-enabled PDF (it says on the top that I can fill out the form but cannot save data typed into the form), is there any way to get around this and save data typed into the form? Is there an Adobe product available for purchase that will allow me to save data or a version of the PDF with my data filled in? Or does this capability solely depend on how the PDF was created? I am a non-profit grantwriter, and it seems to be more and more common that we cannot save filled-out versions of PDFs that Foundations create, which is an issue in terms of our record-keeping and file-sharing abilities. Does anyone have any ideas for me on how to deal with this, or is there an Adobe product that would solve my problem? Thanks much!

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RBrams
Participant
June 30, 2012

I should mention that I work on a Mac, don't know if that changes anything.

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Anonymous
June 27, 2012

I would like to allow the users of my form to save what they have typed, but only as a separate copy. I do not want their entered information to be saved in the original document. Is this possible, and if so, how do I do it?

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Test Screen Name
Legend
June 27, 2012

To protect your original file, use ordinary file security, so the users can read it but not write it. Otherwise, nothing can protect the file.

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gilbertramirezpt
Participant
June 23, 2012

I find this very confusing because ot the use of specific words like locally. I want to make a form in adobe x and then I want to use that form with adobe reader on an ipad to fill in the form and I want to be able to save each form with the name of the patient. what are the limitations of the use of the reader? will I have to recreate the form after 500 uses? this is very confusing and non sensical. Please elaborate if you can?

Many Thanks if you do

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Dave Merchant
Legend
June 23, 2012

Read the policy statement at http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/pdfs/Reader_Extension_Policy_A10-5-31-2011.pdf

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gilbertramirezpt
Participant
June 23, 2012

Dave,

I'm still confused. I'm the one who is filling in the forms. I am filling in the forms on an iPad using reader X. They are evaluation forms. I want to save them to print them when I get home or email them to the company which needs to read them. They will probably print them for the patients paper file. I will need to sign the printed form. I would like to know what this means for my situation.

Thanks.

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