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Nancy OShea
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June 29, 2023
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Home Insurance Debacle

  • June 29, 2023
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Background: California & Florida homeowners are struggling to find & keep their homeowner's insurance.  Major insurance companies have stopped writing new policies and are not renewing existing ones. Underwriters argue that litigation costs combined with catastrophic weather events (fires, floods, climate change) have made insuring properties too risky.  Banks & mortgage lenders insist that real properties be adequately insured for the loan amount or else it's bye, bye mortgage.  

 

As some of you may know, we were planning on installing solar roof panels this year to reduce our carbon footprint and reliance on the electric power grid.  I've since learned however, that some insurance companies are using solar panels as an "exit excuse" from current protection policies. They claim that solar installation brackets compromise the home's structural integrity which renders it "un-insurable."

 

I see no way out of this mess until lawmakers step-in & take action.  So it looks like our dream of installing solar panels is on hold for the foreseeable future.  😓

 

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    Chuck Uebele
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    October 13, 2024

    Just an article on Axios Charlotte That stated insurance companies want to raise rates, here in NC, around an average of 42%. Here's a quote:

     

    The proposed rates differ across the state, with the Rate Bureau requesting a 99% increase in some coastal areas, around 40% in Charlotte and around 20% in parts of the mountains affected by Hurricane Helene, AP noted.

    Nancy OShea
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    October 13, 2024

    There's growing concern that Florida's homeowners may be unable to find, much less afford, property insurance after Helene & Milton.  The few remaining insurers are taking major financial loses from these two disasters.

     

    1 month into the current fiscal year, FEMA's annual disaster relief budget is almost fully spent.  House GOP refuse to expand the FEMA relief package until after the election. Never mind that peak hurricane season lasts until November 30. 😦

     

    Meanwhile, power outages persist throughout the region. Biden announced more than half-a-billion dollars in projects for electric grid resilience.  However, it's unclear if Gov. DeSantis will accept or refuse the federal grant monies.  🤔 🤔

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/biden-florida-hurricane-milton/index.html

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Nancy OShea
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    October 14, 2024

    Armed militias hunting FEMA hurricane responders in Chimney Rock and Lake Lure, NC. 

    https://www.newsweek.com/armed-militia-hunting-fema-hurricane-responders-1968382

     

    FEMA advised all federal responders in Rutherford County to "stand down and evacuate the county immediately."

     

    What in God's name is wrong with these people?!! 

     

     

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    Chuck Uebele
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    October 12, 2023
    • Just an update. Here in NC we're paying about $2,900 for a 3,000+ sq ft bome. In CA for a manufactured home, in an area deemed a fire area, a quote is $4,700.
    Nancy OShea
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    October 1, 2024

    @Chuck Uebele,

    Just a shout-out to see if you're OK in the wake of hurricane Helene. 😍

     

     

     

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    Chuck Uebele
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    October 1, 2024

    Thanks, yes, we're okay. We are actually out in CA when it hit. Our daughter was watching our place. She said that there was a good amount of rain and some strong winds, but no damage.

    Abambo
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    October 7, 2023

    Insurance is a commercial business wanting to make money. So you make money by insuring risks you know that never happen. As soon as the risk gets too high, insurers step out, if they can. At some stage, govenment needs to step in. And government is paid by the taxpayer. 

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    Chuck Uebele
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    October 2, 2023

    My wife went to visit some friends in SLO. Both have State Farm, and both have gotten letters saying they're going to reevaluate their policies. Not a good thing. I contacted a insurance broker in SLO this is what he said, when I asked about getting insurance in the Avila Beach area:

     

    "Yes, you are correct, the insurance industry in California is a mess. The California Fair plan is the only insurance that we would have for that risk along with a companion policy (difference in condition)..."

    Nancy OShea
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    July 15, 2023

    AAA just added their name to this rapidly increasing list. 😝

    AAA follows Farmers in limiting coverage in Florida, citing natural disaster threat (msn.com)

     

     

     

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    John T Smith
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    July 15, 2023

    The article I posted on July 2nd mentioned that part of the reason was the state insurance head not allowing rate increases when the insurance companies were loosing money due to so many large claims... no company can stay in business when it loses money

    Nancy OShea
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    July 15, 2023

    The House needs to focus less on nonsense & more on genuine crises like this one. If they don't intervene soon, we're all in deep trouble.

     

     

     

     

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    Nancy OShea
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    July 9, 2023

    Another one bites the dust!  Now Farmers has left California's homeowners high & dry along with AllState and State Farm.

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    Chuck Uebele
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    July 10, 2023

    Wow, that's not good. 

    Nancy OShea
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    July 10, 2023

    Farmers say they will continue to service current policy holders.  But no new policies will be issued which puts a bite on home buying.  I don't dare make any major improvements because I might lose the coverage I have.  Pins & needles, needles & pins.

     

     

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    Chuck Uebele
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    July 6, 2023

    Yea, insurance in CA is having issues. For all the reasons that have been previously mentioned. While living in the Los Angeles area, we had AAA for our house. When we moved to the central coast, AAA declined covering us, as our house backed against a hill. State Farm did insure us, but I heard that they are now getting out of CA all together. Glad we moved out of CA. Here's a shot, from 2020, taken from my driveway, of a fire. We had to evacuate. Luckily, we sustained no damage. 

    John T Smith
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    July 2, 2023
    Nancy OShea
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    July 2, 2023

    We had an earthquake early this morning.  I don't know anyone who has earthquake insurance anymore. If you can find it, it's too pricey and doesn't cover much. Flood insurance is sold only through FEMA and the premiums are very expensive.

     

    Florida's insurance crisis has less to do with fires and more to do with hurricanes, floods & tornadoes.  Bottom line is private insurance companies no longer want to be in the risk business.

     

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    John T Smith
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    June 29, 2023

    I don't know about Florida, but California has been in the news several times over the past several years due to the fires that have destroyed homes and burned thousands of acres of land... as I remember, at least some of the fires were found to have been caused by lack of maintenance and/or danger tree removal by the power company... really sad for homeowners

    Nancy OShea
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    June 30, 2023

    Unfortunately, fire knows no boundaries.  100 million Americans are breathing unhealthy air from Canada's massive wildfires.  

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/smoke-canadian-wildfires-settles-over-us-midwest-east-2023-06-29/

     

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