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MrQuat
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August 16, 2022
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I was corrected re: pronouncing of the name "Adobe"

  • August 16, 2022
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I was corrected this summer by a French acquaintance when I mentioned "Adobe"...
He told me with a straight face and a stern glance that is properly pronounced "Ah-doub"

He would not be convinced otherwise. 
He also did not recognize the name of Van Halen... saying "Oh, you mean 'Vann-ay-lynne', it's pronounced 'Vann-ay-lynne'".

Goodness.

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    Participant
    August 13, 2025

    I was confidently told that adobe is a Spanish word. It's a Spanish word when it's used in Spanish of course but when it's used in English it's an English word because it has been adopted into English. When a word gets adopted into a new language it's now a word in that language and under the control of the language It can change in spelling meanin and pronunciation. That doesn't change the spelling meaning of pronunciation in the original language because that's a different word in use in a different language. What the confident Spaniard apparently didn't know is that the word adobe was adopted into Spanish from Arabic. So by that rule it was an Arabic word. But of course it is only an Arabic word in Arabic. It is a Spanish word in Spanish. Arabic got the word from Coptic, which is an ancient language from Egypt. So in Coptic it's a Coptic word. And Coptic is a later evolved form of the language Ancient Egyptian, spoken by the pharaohs and their subjects. So ultimately that's where the word adobe came from -- Ancient Egypt(ian). You can bet that at every point along the way it was pronounced the way the people in that language pronounced, all of whom pronounced it correctly for their time and place because it was a word in their language at that point.

    Legend
    September 11, 2022

    In France, that is the correct pronunciation for a French speaker. A final "e" is not pronounced on a word, and nor is "h" ever pronounced (the sound does not exist in French).  Some French speakers might make allowances for foreign (non-French) words, and some might not. Your friend is not wrong, and nor are you. Your acquaintence arguably should not correct you, but equally you should arguably not try to correct your acquaintance. Unless of course you want an argument.

    Averdahl
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    September 8, 2022
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    He also did not recognize the name of Van Halen...


    By @MrQuat

     

    That´s the biggest issue right there.

     

    So please, Somebody Get Me a Doctor... 😉

    MrQuat
    MrQuatAuthor
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    September 9, 2022
    Ha!
    JR Boulay
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    September 2, 2022

    "I've met Frenchmen who told me the telephone was invented by a Frenchman, also the automobile and the light bulb."

    You can add the hot air balloon (mongolfière), the plane, the bike, the bra, the photo, the calculating machine, the folding umbrella, the micro computer, the Bézier curves… and the Value Added Tax (VAT) !

    😉

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    Nancy OShea
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    September 2, 2022

    No disrespect to French inventors but ancient bras date back to the Minoans.  Torture devices like corsets and brassieres came much later.

    https://interestingengineering.com/culture/the-long-evolution-of-the-bra-who-invented-it-and-why

     

    The French can be proud of Joseph Marie Jacquard for creating the first replaceable punch card machines which  revolutionized the textile industry and became the basis for early computers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquard_machine

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    JR Boulay
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    September 2, 2022

    "I was corrected this summer by a French acquaintance when I mentioned "Adobe"...
    He told me with a straight face and a stern glance that is properly pronounced "Ah-doub"

    He would not be convinced otherwise."

    So you're right: he is a Frenchman!   🙂

     

    In fact, Frenchs mostly prononce foreigns words using the French prononciation.

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    J E L
    Community Expert
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    August 29, 2022

    That's funny about Adobe. I love talking about pronunciations. For Adidas, I say it the German way (AH-dee-dahs, with emphasis on the first syllable), but some in American shoe stores laugh at me (they say Ah-DEE-dus). The designer names are fun, too, with most saying Givenchy wrong.

     

    Moschino = moss-KEY-no
    Louis Vuitton = lou-ee VWEE-tah-n (soft 'n')
    Loewe = Lo-EE-vay
    Lanvin = lohn-vahn
    Jean Paul Gaultier = JHON Paul GOH-t-ay
    Hervé Léger = ehr-VAY ley-JAY
    Givenchy = jee-VOHN-shee
    Anna Sui = ah-na swee
    Yves Saint Laurent = eeves san lor-RAUN

    MichelBParis
    Legend
    August 21, 2022

    See:

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_(entreprise)

    "Adobe Inc. ou Adobe, anciennement Adobe Systems (/adob/ en français, /əˈdoʊbi:/ en anglais) est une entreprise informatique éditant des logiciels graphiques dont ..."

    I don't know any Adobe French customer able to understand what /əˈdoʊbi:/ does mean. I am sure a few do.

    Nancy OShea
    Community Expert
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    August 21, 2022

    Adobe is derived from the spoken Arab word al-tob which means "the brick."

     

    Adobe is sun dried mud bricks made from clay, water & straw.  It also refers to the dwellings made of the material. Frontier ranchers and monks favored adobe as it remains cool in the summer and insulated in the winter, however it's susceptible to California's frequent earthquakes.  😞

     

    Where I live, this is the last Monterey-style adobe from the Rancho-era.  Built in 1847, it was a working horse & cattle ranch and year-round home for 10-12 people. It looks spacious on the outside but the rooms inside are very small.

     

     

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    MichelBParis
    Legend
    August 22, 2022

    Good illustration Nancy!

     

    With ecology I believe that there is a future for constructions with 'adobe', for instance:

    http://www.botmobil.org/cloisons-torchis-murette-adobe/

     

    Anyway,

    /əˈdoʊbi:/  or not   /əˈdoʊbi:/ that is the question!

    KShinabery212
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    August 17, 2022

    Living here in Germany, I have heard many Germans say "Ah-doub".  No offense to my German friends.

    LOL a young person in Germany that might not know Van Halen would pronounce the V as an F or W. 

    Let's connect on LinkedIn. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kshinabery/
    Leslie Moak Murray
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    August 16, 2022

    I worked at Air France for a few years. There's a reason the term "Chuavinism" is named after a French guy (a Napoleon loyalist). I've met Frenchmen who told me the telephone was invented by a Frenchman, also the automobile and the light bulb.

    EuanWilliamson
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    August 19, 2022

    When everybody knows it was the Scottish !!

    ps. I've been told I'm condescending. That means I talk down to people 😉

     

    Best regards, Euan.
    Nancy OShea
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    August 16, 2022

    A rose is still a rose...  I hope you & your acquaintance are still on speaking terms. 🙂

     

    Languages can be polarizing even within the same country.  For example, do you say bucket or pale?  Beach or shore?  Huge or ewe-ge?  Soda or pop? 

     

    The words we use and how we say them say a lot about where we come from (the tribal thing).

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    KShinabery212
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    August 17, 2022

    Nancy... if you go down South it is not Pop or Soda... everything is Coke.
    LOL. When I moved to Tennessee as a kid... when they asked me what kind of Coke do I want, I was confused. Because down there everything is Coke.

    Let's connect on LinkedIn. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kshinabery/
    Nancy OShea
    Community Expert
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    August 17, 2022
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    ...down there everything is Coke.


    By @KShinabery212

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    Must be hell for fast food workers. "Gimme Mountain Dew Coke." 😖

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert