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Brian Stoppee
Inspiring
December 10, 2017
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More Powerful MacBook Pro RAM in 2018? (the reality)

  • December 10, 2017
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Not enough RAM memory in your new Apple MacBook Pro? Big file users of Adobe’s Acrobat, After Effects, Animate, Illustrator, Photoshop, and Premiere Pro will attest to that. Apple’s fully loaded MacBook Pro has a maximum of 16GB of RAM when a minimum of 32GB makes more sense for those memory hungry projects. Time to dump macOS and just to Windows 10?

Is the other big media technology laptop favorite, HP, just figuring if 16GB is all Apple is offering, that’s all they’ll offer, in their ZBook?

In the midst of all that Internet chatter of nasty accusations against Apple and HP, don’t blame them. 16GB is all the RAM those Intel i7 laptop microprocessors can handle. So, is HP’s Book catch phrase of “mobile workstation” just a very far away dream?

If laptop memory power is on your list of New Year resolutions, there’s a confirmation that the Apple executive suite is listening, so that appears to mean Intel is listening, too. (We’re sure HP’s ears are open, as well).

This month, in Washington DC, Smithsonian Magazine held their “Future of Design” event.  In relationship to the RAM issue (and a few other things) Apple’s design chief, Jony Ive said, “…all of your feelings and feedback around the MacBook you use, we couldn't want to listen to more... And we hear - boy, do we hear."

2018 appears to be the year of power computing. Any day now, Apple is promising a desktop revolution with the iMac Pro, an all-in-one computer with an 18-core Intel Xeon processor and 128GB of RAM. In April, Apple announced that a new Mac Pro was on its way, presumably even more powerful than the iMac Pro. So, the studio world is about to have the power it needs, if the workspace is indoors.

If your studio is mobile, it’s tough to say when Apple or HP will have 32GB of RAM. Both companies are on the ever-shortening “recommended” or “only” vendor lists of many corporate and government buyers. Even after Intel releases new processors (supposedly in 2018), there’s extensive testing before the hardware hits the streets.

“Big Data” is the technology phrase for the close of the decade. And, many Adobe experts need big RAM to go with their big documents, animations, graphics, photos, vector art, and 4K video. Many of us work in on-the-go studios. So, it’s good to know that Jonathan Ive and his team are listening.

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    Kat Gilbert
    Legend
    December 15, 2017

    Slightly off the subject but on the topic of new MacPro- email from yesterday is that the new iMacs are out. Bigger, better, etc, etc. What caught my eye was that they are doing trade ins... Haven't delved too deep in the announcement but prob. won't effect me. My IT guy said that the 18th was the kickoff at local Apple store. Just keep hoping that my old 2009 keeps working but not able to upgrade the system stuck on 10.11.6--- that could be a problem if Adobe keeps on the road that they are on! Was hoping to at least get up to 10.12! Oh well...

    Brian Stoppee
    Inspiring
    December 15, 2017

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Kat+Gilbert  wrote

    Slightly off the subject but on the topic of new MacPro- email from yesterday is that the new iMacs are out. Bigger, better, etc, etc. What caught my eye was that they are doing trade ins... Haven't delved too deep in the announcement but prob. won't effect me. My IT guy said that the 18th was the kickoff at local Apple store. Just keep hoping that my old 2009 keeps working but not able to upgrade the system stuck on 10.11.6--- that could be a problem if Adobe keeps on the road that they are on! Was hoping to at least get up to 10.12! Oh well...

    Well, Kat-

    This is so on topic that it's the subject of our next thread in this series.

    The iMac Pro tosses some interesting decisions onto the table for media professional.

    December 14, 2017

    Any idea on when the new Mac pro will be out? 128GB sounds good. I really like sticking to Mac and there are quality issues for that.

    Brian Stoppee
    Inspiring
    December 14, 2017

    samuels80897907  wrote

    Any idea on when the new Mac pro will be out? 128GB sounds good. I really like sticking to Mac and there are quality issues for that.

    I doubt anyone in the Apple Executive Suite could tell you that.

    Generally, Apple, HP, and other players (some of whole buy more product from Intel than HP or Apple) beta test Intel processors as Intel is developing them and the manufacturers are working on how they'll be used.

    Some manufacturers will rush products out the door when the new processor ships. But, all they are doing is dropping the new processor into the slot of where an old one was.

    Usually, but not always, Apple and HP create completely new products which use the attributes of the new processor. Once the final Intel processor ships there's still work for Apple to do. They'll have target goals, but sometimes they do miss the goal for reason beyond their control.

    Ussnorway7605025
    Legend
    December 13, 2017

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Brian+Stoppee  wrote

    when Apple or HP will have 32GB of RAM

    around the same time Windows gives 128gb for half the price would be my guess

    Trevor.Dennis
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    December 13, 2017

    Ussnorway  wrote

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Brian+Stoppee   wrote

    when Apple or HP will have 32GB of RAM

    around the same time Windows gives 128gb for half the price would be my guess

    128GB of decent spec memory is >$2000 for a Windows PC.   Google tells me that you'd need another $500 to put 128GB in a Mac Pro. 

    I settled on 64Gb for the 7900X build I have underway.  It's very rare that I see the 32Gb in my current 3930K system maxed out, and I have a strong suspicion that drive speed is more of a bottleneck with large Photoshop projects, updating often surprisingly large temp files on the Scratch drive, and referencing Smart Objects.   I have a couple of projects that stalled through lack of performance and unacceptable lag, that I am looking forward to testing on my new build, and more for the improved drive speed with NVMe M.2 drives than extra RAM, faster bus, and more CPU cores that Photoshop won't even be using.  I've harped on about this on several occasions, but I seem to be a lone voice.  Well I'll be looking closely at Resource Monitor on old and new systems, with those problem projects to see if I can pin down what the bottleneck is.

    Brian Stoppee
    Inspiring
    December 13, 2017

    Trevor.Dennis  wrote

    I settled on 64Gb for the 7900X build I have underway.

    Are you telling us that you are building your own laptop?