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Brian Stoppee
Inspiring
April 23, 2018
Question

We Have to Wait ANOTHER YEAR for Our New Mac Pro?!!!

  • April 23, 2018
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Yes. Earlier this month Tom Boger, senior director of Mac Hardware Product Marketing, told Tech Crunch, “We want to be transparent and communicate openly with our pro community, so we want them to know that the Mac Pro is a 2019 product. It’s not something for this year.”

What’s the important part of that statement?

When Tom says, “pro community” he’s not only being transparent about the release time frame, what he’s also saying is, “Are you part of that pro community even if you qualify as a ‘pro’?” There are a limited number of professionals who need that kind of Olympic weight lifting technology muscle.

The top tier Apple and HP laptops are not able to host the RAM needs of many professionals because of RAM limit specification of Intel’s microprocessor. So, those current laptop issues open the door for important desktop computing alternatives. But, at some point Intel will solve the laptop RAM issue. It’s worth mentioning that the microprocessors which go into laptop computers, are traditionally not the same as than those brains which go into desktop computers.

How much technology weight do we need to be pressing over our Macs’ heads to need this kind of power? Here are a few examples of when our MacBook Pros say. “OUCH!”:

Adobe Illustrator: Some AutoCAD users send us huge vector art files. They usually work okay. But, there are times when the projects are so massive that it takes a very long time to scroll around them.

There are some very cool things that we love to do in painting with Illustrator. Once those projects become extremely complex (and we love to make them complex) it’s difficult to paint in realtime. When that happens, we have to stop working.

Adobe Premier Pro: For the most part, non-linear editing (NLE) is not demanding on a fully loaded MacBook Pro. However, we create many graphics which assist people in the learning process. As we build layer upon layer upon layer, the motion graphics cause long projects to lag. Moving up and down or back and forth through a big timeline hurts. Premier Pro’s monitor panels can become slow to respond, as well.

Adobe Photoshop: Oh… where to begin. We go back to Painter 1.0 and our work in pixel art and compositing became something of a signature for us. When Adobe added a paint engine to Photoshop, we could begin to do what we could not accomplish in Painter. However the more layers we add and the great complexity we bring to the table, the more we create a realtime painting issue, similar to what happens in Illustrator. We compound that problem with 3D.

That’s not the whole of it. Animating with Adobe After Effects and Adobe Animate has its own set of pain points.

Why wait? Why don’t we just buy the current Mac Pro? Have you priced a fully loaded one of those things? There are cars which cost less!

We do not know specifically what Apple is waiting for, with the new Mac Pro, but we can see that new big tower development appears to be on hold at HP, as well. So, that tells us its probably all Intel driven.

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    Ussnorway7605025
    Legend
    April 29, 2018

    in lay terms more cores = more things at once

    it is the Virtual market driving them more than anything else, so a guy running Fusion (vmware on a MAC) has two core cpu thats one to run the host and the other runs whatever virtual software is installed on Fusion... if he upgrades to a 4 core cpu then he could run another V-system (at the same time!) with out slowing anything down and assuming he has the ram.

    a 44 core cpu only makes sence in servers running muti-systems and is very inefficient way to mine... most serious mining systems use single core boxes in mutliple stacks but the draw of easy money attracts clueless investers until the market settles down

    Cactus Cowboy
    Inspiring
    April 29, 2018

    It's all about raw speed. Has nothing to do with running software. At that power level software doesn't even factor in. It's the computational power to solve math equations and the ability to post orders faster than your opponents in nano second time increments to garner percentages of cyber currency or bitcoins. Look it up and check out some YouTubes on it. It's even practiced on Wall Street selling and buying stock orders.

    Cactus Cowboy
    Inspiring
    April 25, 2018

    So, what are all you Apple heads gonna do while your waiting for the orchard to decide what it's going to do. The whole report reads like "One Big Cluster Freak" happening. Eurika! I've got it; why not we all switch over to the evil empire!

    Brian Stoppee
    Inspiring
    April 25, 2018

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Cactus+Cowboy  wrote

    I've got it; why not we all switch over to the evil empire!

    You speak of Windows 10?

    I kind of like that OS but I know it would require me to invest a ton of time to have expertise with it.

    However, if I bought a HP tower, it has the same microprocessor as the Mac Pro, so what have I gained?

    Cactus Cowboy
    Inspiring
    April 25, 2018

    From all that I've read, You'd gain a big savings over remaining with Apple in money alone. Is it not the main argument that Apple is not providing a system with chipsets that allow a monsterous size memory advantage to be able to run demanding apps and projects, and that this new deal that they are putting together is going to do just that...supposedly at an enormous cost for such a system.

    You could probably build a laptop or desktop to your specs right now for half of what an Apple's new system deal will costs and run as much memory as you can afford and whatever OS you need or even dual operating systems. An aftermarket custom rig is by far the way to go. Why HP, why Apple, why Dell hell, why Window's...why not you pick al-la-carte what you want or need in a wishlist shopping cart fashion and that way you know exactly what you have to compare with. A lot people of have been doing this all ready. Apple is still to damn proprietary with everything. You would have thought that with the death of Jobs that would have been the first thing they would have changed. It would have been for the better of it customers.

    Erik Lord
    Inspiring
    April 24, 2018

    Saw an article a month or so ago that Apple was going to ditch Intel to move back to their own CPUs.
    PPC redux?
    I think it was for 2020, so I guess not in time for this 2019 version, but if the switch is just a year later, would seem silly given Intel's memory limitations to purchase a 2019 Mac Pro at all and just wait for the super version in 2020...

    Brian Stoppee
    Inspiring
    April 24, 2018

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Erik+Lord  wrote

    Saw an article a month or so ago that Apple was going to ditch Intel to move back to their own CPUs.

    There have been a fair number of rumors about Apple doing their own Microprocessor but it seem to become a bit more legitimate once Bloomberg and Forbes reported on the fact that there are such rumors out there. Normally when those companies report on rumors they have some intel which says it's potentially legit.

    The interesting aspect of Apple leaving Intel is that we tend to think of Apple and HP as monster consumers of Intel products. However, even together, they're not a monster chuck of Intel's revenue stream.

    Brian Stoppee
    Inspiring
    April 24, 2018