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Thomas Phinney
Inspiring
Oct 19, 2003 5:36 PM UTC
Question

Creative Suite vs. InDesign CS vs. Illustrator CS bundled fonts

This is a complicated issue, which I hope can be clarified by this summary.

With InDesign CS by itself, there are 66 fonts, many of which are new for the CS version. Apparently these are included with the educational version as well. This includes fonts from the Adobe Jenson Pro, Lithos Pro, Myriad Pro and Trajan Pro families. See here for a complete list:

Thomas Phinney, "InDesign CS bundled OpenType fonts" #, 18 Oct 2003 12:26 am">Thomas Phinney "InDesign CS bundled OpenType fonts" 10/18/03

With Illustrator CS by itself, there are 102 fonts, about 31 of which do not overlap with the fonts bundled with InDesign CS. This includes fonts from the Chaparral Pro and Charlemagne Std families. See here for a complete list:

Thomas Phinney "Illustrator CS bundled OpenType fonts" 10/18/03

The other CS apps do not individually add meaningfully to the bundled font count.

However, with the Creative Suite as a package, there are up to 211 fonts: the 138 fonts included with the individual apps; the Warnock Pro Opticals set (32 fonts); plus if you register online in the US and Canada, you can download the Brioso Pro Opticals fonts (42 fonts). Note that Brioso is one of several choices you have of registration incentives, and you need to be sure to look for and follow the link! You can get it later from your main store registration page if you miss it the first time, though.

The standard edition and premium edition of the suite have the same font bundle.

Details on the full bundle are here:
Thomas Phinney, "211 OpenType fonts available with Creative Suite" #28, 18 Oct 2003 11:07 am">Thomas Phinney "211 OpenType fonts bundled with Creative Suite" 10/18/03 11:07am

Regards,

T

Thomas W. Phinney
Fonts Program Manager
Adobe Systems
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    Steve Werner
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    Steve WernerCommunity Expert
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    Apr 5, 2004 1:48 PM UTC
    Norris,

    The other Creative Suite fonts are installed in /Library/Application Support/Adobe/fonts. In that location they're available in (and in the menus of) all your CS applications.

    You can move them from there to /Library/Fonts or other OS X font locations, or use your font manager to manage them.
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    _Norris_Siert_
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    Apr 5, 2004 12:54 PM UTC
    My Mac version of Adobe Creative Suite only contains the Warnock Pro font set. Having been informed by Adobe (and Apple) that Postscript Type 1 fonts were no longer supported in Panther, I was hoping that the CS fonts would get me started replacing some old favorites. But they are not there. The "Classroom in a Book" series suggests doing a custom install to install just the fonts but that is not an option, at least with the CS installer. Perhaps it is with the individual programs.

    Is there a way for Mac users to get some or all of these bundled fonts without buying them individually from Adobe?

    Norris Siert, first time purchaser.
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    Dov Isaacs
    Dov Isaacs
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    Apr 5, 2004 12:58 PM UTC
    For the record, both Adobe applications and MacOS X 10.3 (i.e., "Panther") fully support Type 1 fonts. We would be very interested in knowing which "experts" at Adobe and/or Apple told you otherwise. Or perhaps you misunderstood them?

    - Dov
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    - Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
    Steve Werner
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    Steve WernerCommunity Expert
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    Jan 1, 2004 9:12 PM UTC
    Guy listed the path for Windows.

    Or, on the Macintosh the fonts get installed to Library/Application Support/Adobe/Fonts
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    _Guy_Smiley_
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    Jan 1, 2004 7:23 PM UTC
    They get installed to the Program Files/Common Files/Adobe/Fonts directory.
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    _Amy_Rothstein_
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    Dec 30, 2003 9:49 PM UTC
    But where are these fonts? I installed everything on the CS disks, including the extras. I even loaded up the installer again and didn't see any new options. I have some of them, but I don't have others.
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    _John_L_Randolph_
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    Nov 16, 2003 1:29 AM UTC
    Mr. Phinney, have you been able to determine yet if the educational version also has the opportunity to get the Brioso fonts upon registration? Thanks for all your informative input on this & other messages.
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    LRK 2
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    Nov 14, 2003 12:24 PM UTC
    I did some much needed maintenance on my Web site the other night and lost the font list. It's now back up again.

    Here is the link again: http://www.graphicspalmbeach.com/forum/fonts/fonts.html
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    LRK 2
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    Nov 7, 2003 12:46 PM UTC
    You're welcome.
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    Neil_Keller
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    Nov 7, 2003 4:17 AM UTC
    Linda,

    Thanks for the "cheat sheet"!

    Neil
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    LRK 2
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    Nov 6, 2003 11:57 PM UTC
    Okay
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