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_Chris_Holm_
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Jul 7, 2000 5:24 PM UTC
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Product Announcement: ATM Light 4.1 Now Posted

Hello -

ATM Light 4.1 for Windows has just been posted on the adobe.com web site for free download. If you do not require the font management features that ATM Deluxe supplies, then this is the download you need. Note, the file size is about 12.7 megabytes to accomodate the universal installer.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/atmwin.htm

If you are an ATM Deluxe 4.0 user, *do not* download this installer as it is incompatible with ATM Deluxe. ATM Deluxe 4.0 users who wish to upgrade to ATM Deluxe 4.1 must purchase the upgrade available for $29. via . This phone number is for upgrades only and the upgrade package does not include a serial number.

Chris Holm, Adobe Systems Inc.

Features

* Rasterization for Type 1 and PostScript OpenType fonts.
* Universal installer automatically installs the proper version of ATM for the version of Windows you are using (Win 95/98; Win NT4; Win 2000).
* Downloads available for 12 languages, including Japanese.
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    _Noel_Browning_
    Participant
    May 30, 2004 5:02 AM UTC
    Bob,

    When I attempt to download the ATM Light 4.1 software from the address noted in your message this is the message I receive:

    "We're sorry! The page you were trying to view is no longer here. If you reached this page from another part of Adobe.com, please let us know so we can fix the problem".

    Acording to the InDesign help file I must use ATM Light 4.1 to install the OpenType fonts included on the InDesign 2.0 CD. I will try copying the OpenType files from the CD to the PS file on my hard drive. I am using InDesign 2.0.2 on a Windows 98 SE PC. The CS version requires Windows XP.

    Noel
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    BobLevine
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    BobLevineCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    May 30, 2004 7:47 PM UTC
    There is an Adobe\fonts folder created somewhere, but I don't know where
    it is on Win98.

    I'm having no problem reaching that page on the Adobe site. Try again,
    as it may have simply been down when you tried to get to it.

    Bob
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    _Noel_Browning_
    Participant
    May 29, 2004 8:36 PM UTC
    I have ATM Light 4.0 which won't work with my Indesign 2.02.
    It seems that there is no longer download support for the ATM Light 4.1 software and I need to use the OpenType fonts included with In Design.

    As I am 72 and retired now I can not afford to Upgrade my 98 SE system to Windows XP or upgrade my InDesign, Acrobat and Illustrator software.

    I write newsletters and other material that is published for a non-profit educational organization. Can I get the educational rate for upgrading my Adobe software?

    I am a long time user of Adobe software.

    Noel Browning
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    _Aandi_Inston_
    Participating Frequently
    May 29, 2004 9:04 PM UTC
    >It seems that there is no longer download support for the ATM Light 4.1 software

    Why do you say that?

    >Can I get the educational rate for upgrading my Adobe software?

    ATM Lite is free.

    Aandi Inston
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    Thomas Phinney
    Inspiring
    Oct 26, 2002 1:05 AM UTC
    Ian,

    I think Aandi answered all your questions (quite possibly better than I would have!).

    Thanks, Aandi,

    T
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    _Ian_Campbell_
    Participant
    Oct 25, 2002 1:03 PM UTC
    As to the "hooks" . . .
    In the [boot] section of system.ini the third line reads 'system.drv=atmsys.drv'. Presumably this line was inserted when ATM Lite was installed. I believe it causes the latter driver to be loaded into memory at this stage in booting in lieu of the MS Windows driver. At the end of the [boot] section the last line reads 'atmsys.drv=system.drv' from which I presume the latter eventually finds its way into memory without overwriting the former.

    Thanks for your contribution.

    Ian
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    _Aandi_Inston_
    Participating Frequently
    Oct 25, 2002 1:14 PM UTC
    Yes, that's how the "hook driver" loads.

    Aandi Inston
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    _Ian_Campbell_
    Participant
    Oct 24, 2002 8:24 PM UTC
    Thomas,

    This is not directly relevant to Jean's problem, but I for one would like to know the mechanics of how Windows 98, Me, etc makes PostScript fonts available to applications?

    By way of background, and please correct me if I am wrong here, the main function of font management programs is to give users the opportunity to load only required fonts into memory leaving those not required sitting out on disc. No point in wasting valuable memory on fonts which will not be used, is there?

    So you have all your PostScript fonts on disc, and you "instal" them as required using say ATM Lite which puts them in the folder C:\psfonts, and lists them in the initialisation file atm.ini which the application looks up each time it is executed. But this does not get them into memory, hence my search for knowledge.

    Is the answer that there is an arrangement between Adobe and Microsoft that when Windows boots all files in C:\Psfonts are loaded into memory either directly or via the list in the atm.ini file?

    If this is the case when and how are newly installed fonts loaded into memory without rebooting?

    I note that application software developers are responsible to detect the fonts available in memory when his/her application loads (EnumFontFamilies, EnumFonts).

    Regards

    Ian Campbell
    Sydney, Australia
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    _Aandi_Inston_
    Participating Frequently
    Oct 25, 2002 8:47 AM UTC
    >This is not directly relevant to Jean's problem, but I for one would like to know the mechanics of how Windows 98, Me, etc makes PostScript fonts available to applications?

    Well, unaided it doesn't. ATM makes it able to do this. Essentially,
    ATM "hooks into" Windows so that at critical points, more fonts are
    available. That is if one part of Windows asks another "list all
    available fonts", it adds more to the list. Of course, it has to do
    much more, concerned with actually displaying or printing the font
    when the application chooses to use it, but it is all done with hooks.

    This applies only to pre-NT systems (95/98/Me).
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    > the main function of font management programs is to give users the opportunity to load only required fonts into memory leaving those not required sitting out on disc. N

    Not really. Firstly, a loaded font isn't entirely in memory. The
    amount of memory used is by today's standards trivial. Managing fonts
    is necessary because these all systems, but especially these
    old-fashioned ones, have limits. For instance, the file names of all
    fonts are listed in several places that are limited to 64K and cannot
    be increased. In addition, it may benefit the end user by limiting
    font selection to relevant fonts, and speeding up the selection
    process.

    Remember: ATM Deluxe is a font manager in this sense. ATM Lite is not.

    There is also auto-activation. This relies on the fact that almost
    all applications will try to use a font without first checking if it
    is available. Normally, if a font is not available, Windows picks a
    substitute. But with ATM, it can see the request coming and activate
    the named font. This function relies on hooks that do not exist in
    Windows NT systems.

    >I note that application software developers are responsible to detect the fonts available in memory when his/her application loads (EnumFontFamilies, EnumFonts)

    These are exactly the sorts of place where ATM adds hooks. Not all
    applications do this (only) when the application loads, but those
    which do may be unable to detect when fonts are added.

    Aandi Inston
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    _Bob_Linscomb_
    Participant
    Aug 14, 2002 12:40 PM UTC
    I'm new to this discussion, but I'm also surprised that Adobe is charging $29 for a "point" release! I purchased ATM 4.0 in good faith and now I find that I'm expected to shell out another $29 to stay current. My experience is that point releases are treated as free upgrades and major (i.e. 5.0) releases are purchased.

    From a PC user's perspective and given that the major change in ATM seems to be to allow the use of Open Fonts, which serves Adobe and not necessarily the user community, makes this even more poignant in my estimation.
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    _Aandi_Inston_
    Participating Frequently
    Aug 14, 2002 1:36 PM UTC
    I'm not sure how this follows. ATM Lite is free.

    Aandi Inston
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    _Bob_Linscomb_
    Participant
    Aug 14, 2002 2:18 PM UTC
    Your correct Aandi, but ATM Lite is a stripped down version of ATM Deluxe. I'm looking for an upgrade to my ATM 4.0 without the $29 price tag.

    Additionally, as Chris Holm has stated: "If you are an ATM Deluxe 4.0 user, *do not* download this installer as it is incompatible with ATM Deluxe. ATM Deluxe 4.0 users who wish to upgrade to ATM Deluxe 4.1 must purchase the upgrade available for $29. via 1-800-445-8787. This phone number is for upgrades only and the upgrade package does not include a serial number.
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    _Neil_Benson_
    Participant
    Jul 1, 2002 8:38 AM UTC
    ATM Light download: File Not Found

    After filling in my registration details on the ATM Light registration page, I'm taken to an Adobe file not found page.

    Any ideas?

    Neil
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    _rochelle_fisher_
    Participant
    Apr 25, 2002 12:24 PM UTC
    I downloaded ATM 4.1 to use with FM 6.0, on Windows 98. I cannot get ATM activated. At first, I had the 'system hooks' error. I found a solution on the web. It says to change atmsys.drv to system.drv in the System.ini file. I did this and solved the hooks error, but when I searched for a solution to activate ATM, Adobe said that system.drv must be changed to atmsys.drv!!
    I've checked everything else that I was told to check. I have all the files in the right place. The settng is "on". I've uninstalled, reinstalled. I've tried the version on the CD and the version for download (Thomas Neuburger in Masters Series says the one on the CD is buggy). In short, I've tried everything I can think of. I cannot get ATM 4.1 activated.
    I see that other users have posted similar problems, and have not yet been answered with a solution. Can anyone help?
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    _Aandi_Inston_
    Participating Frequently
    Apr 25, 2002 12:37 PM UTC
    Are you running Hebrew Windows? If you are, there is no way to make
    this work.

    Aandi Inston
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    _booger_mcbooger_
    Participant
    Sep 24, 2001 6:31 PM UTC
    re: ATM Light 4.1 for Windows

    Has anyone been able to connect to the FTP site in the past two weeks? I have had repeated failures, both with the browser and FTP client.
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    Thomas Phinney
    Inspiring
    Sep 16, 2001 12:47 AM UTC
    Tim:

    Aandi's right. There's no such thing as ATM 4.6.2 for Windows 98 - that's a Mac version of the application. The current Windows version is ATM 4.1, and it's compatible with Windows 98.

    T
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    _Sylvia_Daniels_
    Participant
    Aug 15, 2002 11:09 PM UTC
    Thomas,
    Are you familiar with the ATM old version before Deluxe?
    My new job has it and windows 98...how do I load the type 1 fonts? My Quark 4.0 shows the fonts available but my printer is having trouble with Garamond and I wonder if I don't have the type 1 fonts loaded or need Deluxe so I can check them to print...my old version of ATM doesn't have this feature
    Sylvia
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