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jmiteff
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October 15, 2022
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Adobe Acrobat Pro Preflight tool Values

  • October 15, 2022
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Hello:

 

Can someone explain the values that appear beside the TrimBox entry under Page Information? When you run a check to verify compliance with PDF/X-1a, an Overview item appears that drops a tree with various sub-items, including one called Pages. Under Pages, Page Information appears with entries and values for the MediaBox, CoprBox, TrimBox, BleedBox, etc.

 

I have a document that is supposed to have an 8x10 TrimBox and an 8.125x8.25 BleedBox. Those entries say exactly this:

 

TrimBox (Inch): 8.0x10.0 (0.0/.125/8.0/10.125)

BleedBox (Inch): 8.125x10.25 (0.0/0.0/8.125/10.25)

 

Why is the second value in parentheses of the TrimBox have a .125? Why does the fourth have a 10.125? 

 

On screen, the Trimbox measures and is positioned correctly as 8x10 on the pages. I am wondering why it is showing those .125 and 10.125 values. All my PDF files us the same bleed values, so it seems consistent in all of them, but I am running into a problem with a particular print job and they are pointing fingers at me. 

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

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Legend
October 15, 2022

The first is the size (2 figures). The second is the coordinates (4 figures). Your trimbox is not centred in the bleedbox, which is legal but unusual.

jmiteff
jmiteffAuthor
Participating Frequently
October 15, 2022
Fascinating...

This may be causing some of the problems I might be facing. How can I
correct this? The file appears normally with the proper trim and borders on
the Acrobat screen, even when measuring. The Set Page Boxes also do not
show anything anomalous, so I never noticed until I scrutinized the Page
Information and saw that curious seeming inconsistency. I used InDesign to
generate the file and entered 8x10 for the document size. The PDF is
intended for Amazon KDP. All of the files I have generated to date,
including the last 9 books, all show the same coordinate shift but have
printed normally. The last one just will not and is consistently off at the
top by about .125... Although the last proof was off at the sides as well.

The bleed is supposed to be .125 on the outside, top and bottom of the
page. How would it know the center alternating from odd-even (recto verso)
pages? Is it the format smart enough to know that (just asking)?

What should the values be for the TrimBox to be centered? Is there a way to
correct this? This way I can try it and see if my files behave on KDP. I
don't know of a way to change this on output from InDesign or after the
fact in Acrobat.

Any thoughts?
Participant
November 3, 2023

If you go to the InDesign forum and search for KDP you will find many tales of frustration.


I am ghaving almost the same issue. (White line appearong on some proofs and not others at te bottom of the pages, adn all content mved up. Unfortunately, I created my book usinf Pages on a Mac, so added the required bleed to my page size. I had exchange of no less that 21 emails adn two live chats, with them telling me to add bleed. On the final "help chat", the aassistant acknowledged my book size page set up was correct. Amazon then told me to convert to PdfX, as it was the layers ot being flattened that was causing the trim issue. (I didn't think the layers had anything to do with the trim think so, but did it anyaway, as I now know Pdfx is a better conversion. Prior to that, I found out from another print firm that my Trim box was not showing. I am hoping that this will resolve my issue, but not sure. I have no idea what figures to enter i. nto the Trim and Bleed boxes, or even if this will fix the issue of teh white line, as it only appears at the bottom. Surely if there was an issue witht the trim, they would appear all round? Like you, I think my trim area is not centred (top / bottom) for some reason. At wits end! I must admit, Amazon have not been very helpful, adn seem to be giving conflicting info. Good luck with your project, and hopefully you'll eventually resolve it. Anyway, if anyon can tell me what I should enter in the 4 Trim boxes for a book (trim size 148x210mm)  and the bleed boxes, with Amazon bleed of 3.2mm on top / bottom and outer edge only (oddly, none required for the gutter) Thank you1