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richardm56467485
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March 20, 2022
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Adobe losing it's way . . .

  • March 20, 2022
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Adobe's offer / promise (quid pro quo):  . . . a customer's money - for product & support.  I've received and registered the product - but I'm deliberately prevented from engaging with human being 'without a subscription'. 

 

That wasn't the 'deal' when I 'purchased outright' a perpetual license for the products - it didn't say "you'll need to have a product 'subscription' in order to get support for your 'owned' products".

 

Now - Adobe's 'virtual assistant' fails imediately on every try, and I'm unable to engage with human to get a simple question answered about my account - No Phone number, no chat, etc . . . . 

 

Shame on you Adobe.  

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try67
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Community Expert
March 20, 2022

Who told you that you can't have support without a subscription?

richardm56467485
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March 20, 2022

Adobe told me.

 

The website provides no easy contact to a human representative of Adobe, leaving only a ‘Virtual Assistant.’

 

The Adobe Customer Care Virtual Assistant, neither understands, nor answers anything outside its narrowly defined response database.  An endless loop.  

No matter how I rephrased the inquiry – it ended up saying I didn’t have any registered products – even though I was staring at them in my Adobe Dashboard.   

 

The Virtual assistant wouldn’t give me a phone number or chat connection to a human . . . it kept saying I needed to sign in (I was), didn’t have any registered products (I do).

It told me on several occasions – I would be unable to receive further assistance without an active or trial subscription.   

 

After trying multiple times from 9:30 AM EST . . . at 2:00 PM,  After I'd made the original post, I was finally able to get past the riddles of the Virtual Assistant and able to ‘chat’ with a human representative.  The chat rep. was primarily fear mongering about Acrobat Pro XI – suggesting it might damage a Windows 11 computer, or was disparaging perpetual licenses for Acrobat altogether.  It felt like the answers to my questions were nothing more than minor accessories to the hard sell for converting to a subscription.  

I understand.  The subscription model is an immensely profitable model – primarily because the average consumer pays significantly more over time - not because they get ‘significantly’ more.  

Adobe, like many, is selling the equivalent of 1970’s ‘rust proofing’ . . . outsized profitability for the dealer, questionable value for the consumer.     

 

The attendant promises that accompany a product sold, such as warranty, technical support or even basic customer access  . . .  are every bit a contractual obligation as the product itself.
A company cannot erect barriers to promised service, not to mention basic ‘meaningful’ access once they’ve accepted a consumer’s money for the offer they willingly advertised.

 

Much ado about nothing?  I’m not so sure.  It may be worthy of legislative initiative - for all of the big tech firms bolstering  earnings, while quietly errecting barriers to promised support, which as part of the 'offer' is a compensated obligation.  If you purchased a new car and the dealer offered extended service as an inscentive, but would never take your call to discuss a potential issue . . . what would you do?  

 

 

try67
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Community Expert
March 20, 2022

Firstly, to contact someone directly in Adobe for support you have one of two ways:

Chat support: https://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html?rghtup=autoOpen
(type "Agent" to chat with a real person)
Phone support: https://helpx.adobe.com/contact/phone.html

Now, it seems you're trying to get support for an obsolete product, Acrobat XI. That won't work. No software company provides support for products that are beyond their end-of-life date, as far as I know, and Adobe is no different. It has nothing to do with the licensing model. If you contacted them about Acrobat 2020, which is the current version of the "perpetual license" track, they will provide you with support, but not for EOL products that have been out of service for years now.

 

The only issue you should be able to get support for (for Acrobat XI) is activation, and even that is not always the case. If you're trying to get the activation counter reset I recommend you don't mention it's for Acrobat XI at all. This is not OK, but it's like that, unfortunately.