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November 21, 2023
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No label tag <lbl> when converting Word to PDF

  • November 21, 2023
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Hi all,

I am seeing a change in the way Adobe coverts Word lists to PDF.  Lists Item now only contain LBody and no Lbl tags. Both the bullet and text content are combined in the LBody.

Is this new feature/change with tags, or is this an error that is occuring?

Thanks for all feedback and information.

 

Correct answer Bevi Chagnon - PubCom.com

This is a known bug in Adobe's PDF Maker since forever and not a recent change. However, the MS utility to export accessible PDF doesn't have the bug so you might be confusing the two export options.

 

Although the PDF/UA standard requires the <Lbl> tag on the bullet/number character, accessibility isn't negatively impacted when it's missing, especially if you've used a Unicode bullet (U+2022) or other glyph. Screen readers recognize the Unicode character and voice it correctly.

 

The PDF/UA standard has another "error" regarding the <Lbl> tag when tagging naked lists. These are lists that do not have a number, bullet, or other character on each <LI>, such as with a list of employees, a recipe's list of ingredients, etc.  In these naked lists, there shouldn't be an <Lbl> tag, just an <LBody>.

 

Generally, we don't bother correcting Word lists that are missing the <Lbl> tag because in most cases, the missing <Lbl> tag doesn't create an inaccessible list. But when we have the time or tools to correct them in Acrobat, we do add the <Lbl>.

 

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Bevi Chagnon - PubCom.com
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November 21, 2023

This is a known bug in Adobe's PDF Maker since forever and not a recent change. However, the MS utility to export accessible PDF doesn't have the bug so you might be confusing the two export options.

 

Although the PDF/UA standard requires the <Lbl> tag on the bullet/number character, accessibility isn't negatively impacted when it's missing, especially if you've used a Unicode bullet (U+2022) or other glyph. Screen readers recognize the Unicode character and voice it correctly.

 

The PDF/UA standard has another "error" regarding the <Lbl> tag when tagging naked lists. These are lists that do not have a number, bullet, or other character on each <LI>, such as with a list of employees, a recipe's list of ingredients, etc.  In these naked lists, there shouldn't be an <Lbl> tag, just an <LBody>.

 

Generally, we don't bother correcting Word lists that are missing the <Lbl> tag because in most cases, the missing <Lbl> tag doesn't create an inaccessible list. But when we have the time or tools to correct them in Acrobat, we do add the <Lbl>.

 

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Inspiring
March 21, 2025

Where is the tool in Acrobat to add <Lbl>?  I cannot find it anywhere.

Inspiring
March 21, 2025

Nevermind, this is how:

Use the Touch Up Reading Order Tool to draw a rectangle around the bullet.

Right click on the selected bullet and click “Tag as Text” or “x” is the shortcut.

This will tag the bullet in a <P> tag usually in the proper place inside the <LI> tag.

Select the <P> tag.

Type <Lbl>.