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What happened to "File > Save A Copy"?

Participant ,
Jul 08, 2023 Jul 08, 2023

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Hi!

 

I create fillable Reader Enabled pdfs. Up until this past update from Adobe there was a method to save a copy of the Reader Enabled pdf as a NOT Reader Enabled pdf. That function seems to have disappeared with this latest update.

 

There is a pop-up window in Adobe Acrobat that pops up, when using a Reader Enabled pdf and trying to make any change other than filling it in, that says:

"This document restricts some Adobe Acrobat features to allow for extended features in Adobe Acrobat Reader. To create a copy of the document that is not restricted (and has no extended features in Adobe Acrobat Reader), choose File > Save a Copy."

 

When I would do that, "File > Save A Copy", the copy would be fully-editable.

 

This pop-up message still appears now but with the update it seems like the "File > Save A Copy" option is gone, or moved and I can't find it.

Can someone please help me to accomplish the above?

 

Thank you SO MUCH!!

Diane

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Community Expert , Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

You can disable the new UI:

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Community Expert , Jul 11, 2023 Jul 11, 2023

"And, I thought I read that when the PDF has calculations, validations, special functions, etc. in it that the "reader enabled" is still needed. Is that accurate?"

No, that's not true.

Enabling for Reader was only used to save the PDF, it's completely independent of the functions used by the form.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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"I create fillable Reader Enabled pdfs."

Why?
This function has been obsolete and useless for over 10 years.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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This function is necessary for AEM forms.

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Participant ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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Thank you, Bernd! 🙂

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Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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I knew this question was going to come up. I tried to get help here at the forums to understand that. No one responded. From what I read and tried to wrap my head around, I still need it for some of the things I do with the forms. I'm still going with it until I can find someone who can help me to understand WHY I don't need it because I'm not going to risk upsetting end users of my forms. Are you able to explain it to me? 🙂

 

Do you know how to find the "File > Save A Copy" feature that the most recent update of Adobe still says is doable?

 

Thank you so much!

Diane

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Community Expert ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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What does you see at the File menu?

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Participant ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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Hi Bernd!

 

This is what it looks like now (it's not even labeled "File" any longer)... I'm so confused, lol.

 

Thank you!!

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Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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You can disable the new UI:

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Community Expert ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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Isn't it AMAZING that common file operations, like open, save, print, etc. are now hidden behind a wall of microscopic grey icons where no one can find them.

 

And Adobe is still pushing this failed interface onto the general public. Gah!

 

|    Bevi Chagnon   |  Designer & Technologist for Accessible Documents |
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Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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Thank you for that! I saw that and wondered about it but was concerned about clicking on it. Thank you so much, I'm going to go try that. 🙂

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Participant ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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You are the BEST, Bernd! It worked and "File > Save A Copy" is right where it should be. Thank you SO much!! I'm off and running. 🙂 Have a great rest of your weekend!

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New Here ,
Apr 07, 2024 Apr 07, 2024

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Disabling the UI did the trick.

Thanks

 

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Community Expert ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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Since version XI (released in 2012) Acrobat Reader can save any PDF form that has been filled in or any PDF that has been commented on.
Unlike previous versions of Reader, which required the PDF to be Reader Enabled before it could be saved.

 

In any case, "Save A Copy" is still here in the latest Acrobat Pro, at the same place.

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Participant ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

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Hi!

 

Thank you so much for that info about "reader enabled"! I remember now what my trouble is with not saving it as "reader enabled".

 

Not everyone that uses my forms is using the latest version of the free Reader. Rather than going through the process of an upset person contacting me and me having to explain to them to download the latest version (because they didn't read my included instructions that said the same thing) I just stick with the assumption that they're not all updated to the latest version. It's easier than being a broken record over and over, lol.

 

Also, I seem to remember reading that when the PDF has calculations, validations, etc. in it that the "reader enabled" is still needed. Is that accurate? Not all of my PDFs have that but a few do.

 

Does anything negative happen for users who have the latest version of the free Reader installed or for users who have a paid version of Acrobat installed when I save them as "reader enabled"?

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Turns out I was using the "new" Adobe Acrobat. Bernd showed me how to disable it and my File > Save A Copy is back. 🙂

 

Again, thank you so much!!

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Jul 10, 2023 Jul 10, 2023

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"Not everyone that uses my forms is using the latest version of the free Reader"

It's not "the latest version", it's any version less than 13 years old.

You should also read these topics:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/acrobat-discussions/this-document-could-not-be-reader-enabled/td-p/13...

https://community.adobe.com/t5/acrobat-discussions/this-document-could-not-be-reader-enabled/m-p/134...

 

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Jul 10, 2023 Jul 10, 2023

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Hi!

 

Thank you for this!

 

Funny thing is, as I was reading through it, this comment from a post is what rang out to me:

 

"I don't have the luxury of assuming everyone who uses my forms has the the very latest version of Reader, and in fact the feedback I get is the opposite."

 

That is my situation. I understand that it's "any version less than 13 years old" but it was still very recently that a customer contacted me and I had to walk them through how to update their Reader.

 

Is there anything negative that I need to worry about for users of versions "less than 13 years old" and/or users of paid Adobe Acrobat products (vs. the free Reader)?

 

And, I thought I read that when the PDF has calculations, validations, special functions, etc. in it that the "reader enabled" is still needed. Is that accurate? Not all of my PDFs have that but a few do.

 

Again, thank you so much for your time and help! 🙂

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Jul 11, 2023 Jul 11, 2023

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"Is there anything negative that I need to worry about for users of versions "less than 13 years old" and/or users of paid Adobe Acrobat products (vs. the free Reader)?"

No.

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"And, I thought I read that when the PDF has calculations, validations, special functions, etc. in it that the "reader enabled" is still needed. Is that accurate?"

No, that's not true.

Enabling for Reader was only used to save the PDF, it's completely independent of the functions used by the form.

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Jul 11, 2023 Jul 11, 2023

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Excellent! Thank you so much for your time and help! 🙂

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Aug 14, 2023 Aug 14, 2023

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Tell the Acrobat engineers and marketing department to ditch this new "Modern" Acrobat interface. It doesn't work.

 

VOTE HERE: https://acrobat.uservoice.com/forums/590923-acrobat-for-windows-and-mac/suggestions/47082691-ditch-t...

 

 

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Aug 15, 2023 Aug 15, 2023

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 03, 2024 Jan 03, 2024

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Similar issue. I went back to the old UI. Found File-->Save a copy. But it still says I can't edit the PDF. How can I save a copy so that I can edit it freely??????

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Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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Save a Copy just remove Reader's extended rights.

This does not change any protections on the document or the fact that it may be an image.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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The help popup seems to imply otherwise. Thank you.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 08, 2024 Jan 08, 2024

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I open a file. Select Edit, and the the popup displays. The popup help is either incorrect or something else is wrong.

 

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The new UI doesn't have Save a Copy. When I reverted to the old UI, I can see Save a Copy but it doesn't unlock or remove restrictions. Not sure what the popup is referencing.  I save a copy and the message shows up again. Therefore, the instructions in the popup are wrong.

 

 

 

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