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Moofrad
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November 4, 2021
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When deleting page in Acrobat Does not delete corresponding artboard in Illustrator?

  • November 4, 2021
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Hi
I have a pdf file created with Illustrator containing 16 pages. Every page corresponds to an artboard in Illustrator. My problem is that when i delete some pages in Acrobat via Tools>Organize Pages, Select the page(s) to delete. They disappear from the pdf file. BUT! when opening the pdf file in illustrator again all the artboards are still in the document, even the ones I deleted in Acrobat. 

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Correct answer Abambo

To complement what @gary_sc said:

An Illustrator file (if saved as PDF with "Preserve Illustrator Editing Capabilities" or even as Ai with a PDF preview) contains 2 streams of data sets. The PDF data set is used by programs like InDesign to display the Illustrator file. You can also use Acrobat to display the PDF part of an Ai file. That's what I give as a message, when sending someone an Ai file, who may need or want to look at that file, but who has no Ai.

 

What you edit in Acrobat is effectively only the PDF part of the file. Luckily, Acrobat seams to ignore the Illustrator data, so that saving your PDF file does not take away the possibility to edit in Ai. There is no guarantee, however, that third-party programs are also so kind or that all data is preserved.

 

So, golden rule: edit in the source program if needed and only when that is not possible, try Acrobat with a copy.

 

As a side note: you can also save your PDF file without the Illustrator part. In that case, you will get a standard PDF file, that cannot be edited any more in Ai.

 

Now, Ai can also open as one of its import formats PDF files, but you will see, that, if you do so, all the Illustrator context is gone. PDF files can be pretty messy for the human, as they are not intended to be edited by us. The ideal PDF file gets send to a printer or a display, without having anyone touching the data.

 

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Abambo
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AbamboCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
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November 4, 2021

To complement what @gary_sc said:

An Illustrator file (if saved as PDF with "Preserve Illustrator Editing Capabilities" or even as Ai with a PDF preview) contains 2 streams of data sets. The PDF data set is used by programs like InDesign to display the Illustrator file. You can also use Acrobat to display the PDF part of an Ai file. That's what I give as a message, when sending someone an Ai file, who may need or want to look at that file, but who has no Ai.

 

What you edit in Acrobat is effectively only the PDF part of the file. Luckily, Acrobat seams to ignore the Illustrator data, so that saving your PDF file does not take away the possibility to edit in Ai. There is no guarantee, however, that third-party programs are also so kind or that all data is preserved.

 

So, golden rule: edit in the source program if needed and only when that is not possible, try Acrobat with a copy.

 

As a side note: you can also save your PDF file without the Illustrator part. In that case, you will get a standard PDF file, that cannot be edited any more in Ai.

 

Now, Ai can also open as one of its import formats PDF files, but you will see, that, if you do so, all the Illustrator context is gone. PDF files can be pretty messy for the human, as they are not intended to be edited by us. The ideal PDF file gets send to a printer or a display, without having anyone touching the data.

 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Moofrad
MoofradAuthor
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November 5, 2021

Ok thanks guys, I was confused to see the artboards in illustrator after deleting the pages in Acrobat. The thing is that I wanted to double check that the preflight option to create outlines on all fonts in Acrobat really worked and thats why I opened the file in illustrator again before sending to printhouse to verify but then to my suprise I saw all the deleted "pages" again. 

gary_sc
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November 4, 2021

Hi Moofrad,

 

That's because the PDF does not know or understand what an artboard is. Since you have both AI and Acrobat, I suggest you use AI for Illustrator images and Acrobat for PDFs. Besides, when you save a PDF in AI, you destroy some of the features within a PDF.