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Disconnect between prompt and results

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Jan 17, 2024 Jan 17, 2024

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Hello!
This is my first time posting to the forum because I am simply stuck. Using Firefly Image 2, I'm trying to get a roof decorated with copper architectural accents, primarily copper dormers, going so far as to specify the quantity and location, but try as I might I can't get the desired elements to appear. Am I doing something wrong, or is this just a limitation of Firefly? Thanks in advance.

Prompt: "45-degree angle view of a fancy mansion roof on a partly sunny day. There is a forest in the background. The roof is brown clay tile and the building is painted in white stucco. There are four prominent copper dormers just below the roofline. There are two copper finials on at either end of the roof. There is a cupola in the middle of the roof."

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Jan 17, 2024 Jan 17, 2024

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Welcome to the community!

 

I do not have a complete answer, but some tips...

 

The most important parts of the prompt should be close to the beginning. So, sometimes you need to rearrange the prompt to get better results. Also recommend removing unneeded words. You do not need to write in a conversational form.

 

Firefly basically cannot count. So, asking for "four" or "five" of something rarely gets you the exact number you are looking for.  You can try to alter the prompt to "encourage" more of something.  By rearranging, I was able to get three (shown below).  If you are "missing" something, you can try to add more in firefly gen fil or photoshop gen fil, but that can be easy or hard based on what the object is. I was not successful adding more dormers with firefly gen fil.  With sufficient photoshop skills, you could add more using the ones already there. That could take some effort depending on your skill level.

 

In my test, I used your image above as a reference image. I rearranged the order. I added the word "long" because I thought it might not have sufficient space to add dormers based on the length of the roof. I changed "four" to "multiple".

 

I used this prompt:

long fancy mansion roof made of brown clay tile with multiple prominent copper dormers just below the roofline. two copper finials on at either end of the roof. A cupola in the middle of the roof. partly sunny day. building is painted in white stucco. forest in the background.

droopydog500_0-1705520839189.png

https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AUS%3A2153d47e-1476-4772-9f2e-c56883816157&...

 

Others might have additional suggestions.  Good luck.

 

UPDATE:

I was able to get four with a slight prompt change and several iterations:

very long fancy mansion roof made of brown clay tile with lots of prominent copper dormers just below the roofline. two copper finials on at either end of the roof. A cupola in the middle of the roof. partly sunny day. building is painted in white stucco. forest in the background.

droopydog500_0-1705521584453.pngdroopydog500_1-1705521599071.png

https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AUS%3A05569459-d536-42d7-b8fe-9a62fbb134e0&...

 

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Thanks for the welcome and the tips! I'm def new to prompting and still 'deprogramming' myself to watch out for verbal fluff.

Being stubborn, I did go back and try again. I had more success by giving more specifics as to the shape and composition of the dormers. Still not quite what I'd wanted but much closer.

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"45 degree angle view of four copper arched dormer windows on a roof. The building is a white stucco mansion. The copper is shiny and richly colored. The dormer frame extends out from the dormer."

*I assume subjective terms are worthless?firefly-roof-with-arched-dormer-windows.jpg

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I would not say "worthless". It has to relate words to what it has learned injesting images and the text about those images. So, some words/phrases will be easier to understand than others.  For example, I suspect it knows less about what this means: "The dormer frame extends out from the dormer" than this: "copper is shiny and richly colored."

I do not have inside information on the model (someone from Adobe would have to comment), just from my experience using it.

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OK, that makes sense and will be useful to me. I need to think in terms of the tags etc. that are 'visible' to the model.

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