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I am a bit confused with choosing the right product and of course justifying the annual cost. Muse it seems is on its way out, so is Dreamweaver the only option? I can get Muse if I google it but it does not feature in the Adobe list of products or under subscriptions. I found XD quite easy to use to build a site but now I am stuck on how to publish it. Please help.
You will have to use Dreamweaver to convert your design in Adobe XD to a website. Adobe XD is a prototyping tool which allows you to create your initial design without code. After your design is ready, you will have to export your assets and recreate your design in an HTML editor.
Adobe Muse is no longer being developed or sold by Adobe. It will continue to be supported for its existing user base until March 2020.
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Preran
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You will have to use Dreamweaver to convert your design in Adobe XD to a website. Adobe XD is a prototyping tool which allows you to create your initial design without code. After your design is ready, you will have to export your assets and recreate your design in an HTML editor.
Adobe Muse is no longer being developed or sold by Adobe. It will continue to be supported for its existing user base until March 2020.
Thanks,
Preran
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Hi Preran
Given that we now have one less piece of software in the Creative Cloud, and that it has been replaced with a piece of software that essentially replaces paper and a pen, nothing more (Adobe XD), will be be getting a reduction on our fees? Can you explain why so much time and effort is being put into a piece of software that - despite all of Adobe's hype - doesn't really do that much at all? Is it because someone from management has a bee in their bonnet, blinkers on, or has a financial incentive?
Honestly, why on earth would someone waste so much time developing the website with XD and then have to REDO the entire thing again to make it live?
Seems like a completely useless piece of software to me - and for your management guys --> Corel Suite and Webflow are a cheaper alternative, and one that my school will be seriously looking at going forward.
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Just to clarify, XD was never intended as a replacement for Muse. Instead, XD was created for the UX/UI designer, who needs to rapidly iterate and test designs before it's ready for implementation by a developer.
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Hello,
As a manager and team lead for a group of web developers, this kind of thing always cracks me up. It is a running joke in my office when a newbie associate turns in a design from XD, Photoshop, or anything else and says, "Ok developers make this in to a website now thanks!" I turn around and show them a picture of the front of our building and say, "Ok, make this in to a building please - thanks..."
"Whaaaat? How can I do that? You can't make a building out of a picture? I need blueprints, measurements, material specs, color codes..."
That's when everyone starts laughing, because so do we. A prototype that is not exported into raw html and css is absolutely worthless to a Dev team. Developers are the ones who make a website functional. We take the raw HTML / CSS and import it in to our development environment - Microsoft, Java, PHP, or whatever. We take the design and make it dynamic, design and build service / data layers and connect it all together.
What you are speaking about here is the need for a Web Designer - a person. Graphic artists and modelers are great for marketing departments who want to do magazine ads, but a Web Designer is a person who is a skilled graphic artist in a web environment. They create the "web blueprints."
So yes - all software that attempts to take a design and create a functioning website are lousy because they are attempting to take the place of a developer. The code they generate is terrible and hard to deal with later.
I would not expect XD to export as a functioning website, but I would expect it to be able to export a blueprint. But either way it has value in quickly determining the needs of the business and/or client.
The process goes: Model out a site (with XD or a pen and paper), give that model to a web designer to turn it in to it's raw HTML / CSS, and then give it to the developers to make it functional.
All this discussion is around someone attempting to take the place of one of these roles with software, and it exists to a certain extent, but is never as good as an experienced person.
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If your team cannot create html from a screen design you have a very weak team. Taking your example you say that architects are useless right? Adobe XD is an extremely efficient way of creating mockups, layouts and more to discuss them with a client and then to implement them as a website, an app etc. If you would base your development of the layout on a automatically created html your are just bad (sorry for that, bat it's the truth). For example how shall XD know what FE-Framework you're going to use? If you want to use bootstrap for example how shall the grid system be automatically created with all classes? Your answer makes no sense.
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"Whaaaat? How can I do that? You can't make a building out of a picture? I need blueprints, measurements, material specs, color codes..."
I think this comparison is misleading and i don't really get it: In XD we define a canvas with vectors, we define colors, we define shapes. If i would give you a bitmap with pixels... ok. But these are vectors with coordinates, xy, hexcodes, shapes... so why is it so difficult?
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WhaaaT? Did you check this one?:
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You may not know but webdsigner don`t want to share - we want to publish, that´s why I asked. So even as a webcoder, I need to see in some way the data and the colour and pixel dimensions, where does a web programmer find these datas? Now two kind of people need to learn a new app to get a website to run? As far as I experienced with Muse and Pinegrow I do now use the plugin "web export" which is free so far, and from that generated html one can proceed in any code editor.
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Here is scoopage realized years ago in the advent of the web. Coders are not artists. I had so much frustration trying to explain remotely, what I wanted that I had to create exact layouts (very time consuming) because anyone who is content looking at a screen of code is not a visual learner, yet the egos of "I wanna control the world, I am most vital and downplay the talent of artists because I know better" persist. The job of back end developers is just that, take the direction from the front end who work with marketing to pay your salary, put your ego up your arse, be a team player and make it functional. This new tool from Adobe is great and the only, hopefully short lived hurdle is publishing while relying on a developer. That's where the next money will be made, in that software development.
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Sorry, while relying on a development tool.
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Try to re-imagine the situation here. Imagine this XD can create a fully functioning website and convert the designs into a script and/or "blueprints" that only the DEV's can recognize. Do you think there will still be in need of your service? to be honest, Adobe is doing you a favor and/or respects your profession by not giving XD the whole package. Remember that XD creators are also DEV's, and you know they can make that possible if they wanted to. #justsaying 🙂
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I'm not sure where you work, but a true agency isnt going to develop a site in code first, they are going to use some type of prototyping software like XD, Sketch or Figma. Everything else is considered amature or beginner.
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one option is use a tool like Tiled. Export your XD files via a plugin to Tiled, then connect pages with hotspots and hey-presto you have a publishable interactive item of content.
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Hey everyone - BIG UPDATE here. You can now subscribe to Tiled through www.vizibble.com - as a creative agency or freelancer - basically the subscription allows you to use Tiled and resell it to your own clinets when you create interactive content - and dont forget you can create in XD and publish to the web. Its brilliant. Check it out.
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Sorry - website typo - www.vizibblepublishing.com
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I DEFINITELY AGREE
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Hi Everyone
I have been forced to move to Dreamweaver to re-do my website, which is a complete pain in the arse. Apart from anything else, it randomly crashes on me, both at work (separate account) and at home. In addition, the CSS Designer disappears whilst you are typing. Dreamweaver also tends to stall for no apparent reason.
If you are going to have to learn HTML, CSS, Javascript, PHP, why bother with Dreamweaver, it is a bloated piece of software that does exactly what free software like Compozer or Visual Studio Code do. Where I work, we had less problems with teaching people how to develop websites with Visual Studio Code than with Dreamweaver, and it is Free.
With regard to @BurkeAD comment "...with XD or pen and paper..." that tells me that it is not a worth while piece of software to purchase if pen and paper can do the same thing. That is now two pieces of software that we are paying for in the Creative Cloud package that are actually not worth the money. They are little more than fancy padding for a simple function.
The question we are asking where I work is..."given what I have said above, why would we purchase Adobe over other software?"
Carl
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XD and Dreamweaver can be likened to an architect and a builder. The builder does not design and an architect does not build.
Edit: I have tried numerous other products including Visual Studio Code and, over the past 20 odd years, have always returned to Dreamweaver.
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Architectural design and building construction are physically different worlds. In case of website, all can be done in the same environment. Adobe Muse was an example. Since more than a decade dozen web design apps have worked in WYSIWYG mode and generated code as well. Adobe has just made a step back. That is why I have turned to another app developer after Muse dead.
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Hey Carla if you come across a webdesign tool you like, please let me know. I am toldly upset that I have wasted my time with XD. Started using it on day one. Never could get a straight answer about publishing till now. I am not sure whwere these programs are going. Not sure if I want to followq. Seriously. Thank you and others here for making things clearer for . Adobe bring back Muse!
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Hi all - I want to point out that you CAN publish content directly to web via XD. But you need a third party tool called Tiled to do it. Tiled provide a cloud platform to create interactive content. However they only sell this to large corporates directly. Fortunately, we are an authorised global reseller of Tiled specifically tasked to work with small business, agencies and independant designers, allowing them (you) to procure Tiled on behalf of their (your) customers, then build and then sell their (your) services.
Examples of interactive content can be found here:
Clash of Kings Community Gaming Experience
Our Oceans In Peril (Educational Experience for World Ocean Day 2022)
These are all designed in XD and then built and published through Tiled. There is also a plugin for Tiled in the XD plugin catelog which makes moving your designs from XD and into working interactive experiences a breeze.
Please don't think XD is just for protoyping. It definately isn't - especially when partner with Tiled.
We re-sell Tiled licenses under monthly subscription to you and through you to you client - all design work you undertake is yours. We also offer training and support.
For the purists out there - no, this is not a fully-fledge code machine. Its not Dreamweaver. It was never designed to be. Tiled is designed to help designers to do what they do best and create. So can it handle data and build complex apps? Not really. But it can do most of what a traditional website can, just faster, easier, with more flexibility and with no code in sight.
Please get in touch.
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you could give webflow a try, it is really good, you dont even need to code, best part, it's free. Not super limiting if you're doing something simple. and it's quite affordable if you wanna do more and pay for it.
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Check out Quest AI plugin for Adobe XD in the Discover Plugins section. It lets you combine artboards into one HTML page directly from XD. Kind of a spiriftual successor to Muse as it lets you add video, animations, interactions, CMS, etc. But it also lets you host the pages you make from XD with it.
Check it out 😉
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Hi andrewj710,
quest.ai seems to be not too bad at first but getting deeper, one cannot download the code so quite useless except one takes the advantage of pinegrow, to name just the one I kind of know.
Pinegrow let´s you load a website as a project, save it, edit it and that should be just one workflow possible.
Of course it is limited in some space (50MB - free version) but maybe worth it to give it at least a try.
Kind Regards,
Uwe
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I'm learning how to use Adobe XD. It's a great tool! I have a few questions about this tool