Hello William.
Thanks for posting your views on the subject. You're of course entitled to your own opinion but I find your posts as, once again, more and more excuses for Adobe coupled with some strawman arguments to try to support your stance. For example...
I bet that there isn't a guy on this forum that could knock out a 64 bit compiler in a week |
Has anyone of us ever said we could, or that Adobe should knock out a 64 bit compiler in just a week? That's a strawman argument if I've ever seen one. On the contrary, I said that Adobe could have done it at a relaxed pace, taking a whole year and a half if they wanted, since Google warned of this August 2019 deadline back in 2017!
So nobody is criticizing Adobe for not "knocking out a 64 bit compiler in a week", but rather because they didn't plan ahead, which resulted in them actually starting work this year, so now they must be struggling to port the compiler to 64-bit in time before the deadline, especially considering the development team must be a much smaller team than they used to be.
Also, the main criticism anyway is not really how they're working, but how they're handling communication with the developer community, which is ZERO communication. That's the fastest way to shrink the developer community for any technology.
I know if i was Adobe and was reading these forums, i would eventually start ignoring you too |
So it's our fault that Adobe is ignoring us? Just because we complain too much? Really?
Don't you think it's more like the other way around? We wouldn't complain if there had been some kind of communication from Adobe during this year. ANY kind of communication! Now there is NONE, and it's been this way for the whole year up to now (5 months).
That's a horrible way of handling communication: No news at all about the progress in their development, and not even a single line posted in the issue tracker nor in the forums, saying they're working on it. The only way we could know they're at least aware is because of a little entry in the "known issues" of the release notes for the latest beta, which was published in March 15th, which means they didn't start working on this issue until the middle of March of this year (in previous versions this wasn't even acknowledged, despite this was reported way before and Google warned of this in 2017).
We're not even asking for direct communication with the development team. Just some simple messages written by some PR people working for Adobe (as it used to happen years ago, when Adobe "evangelists" and other people from the staff use to take a few moments to write in these forums when some concerns arised).
These messages would just take the better part of 5 minutes and would be enough to show AIR developers that they still care and are working on the issues.
Having ZERO communication from anyone at Adobe, coupled with the fact that Starling and Feathers, which are THE main libraries for AIR, stopped receiving funding this year, just shows how Adobe intends to abandon the technology in a not very distant future. It might even be a strategy by the higher management at Adobe, to make AIR such a residual technology that they won't look so bad for finally pulling the plug when they do. It may sound crazy, but why else would they not have someone post a lousy one liner message in 1 minute to appease concerned developers using their technology?
| I hope every one of you conspiracy theory whining babies will be man enough to come back here and post a sincere apology when Adobe pulls this off, which I suspect they will. I will be first in line thanking them for their hard work. |
There is no conspiracy theory. What we say is happening in the reality: Adobe is having ZERO communication with the AIR developer community. That's a FACT. Even if they release an update of the AIR SDK solving the issues before the August deadline, they have still failed to communicate what they're doing to the developers, which is an important part of keeping a healthy community working with your technology.
Development companies can't just trust a company and rely in their technologies if there are no news from them in months and months on end. That doesn't work in a professional context. It's no wonder most companies are running away from AIR.
Also, calling people with legitimate complaints about this "whining babies" is really unprofessional and unfitting here. This is not a forum for some movie or videogame fans which insult each other over petty disagreements about their fandom. This is the forum of a professional framework meant to build and sell real world apps in the App Store, Play Store and Amazon App Store, along with desktop apps as well. This is not a place to ridicule people over their opinion.
As for "apologizing", I wholeheartedly agree with phillipkerman that it should be Adobe the ones apologizing for their complete lack of communication, even if they do release their SDK update before the deadline (although at this rate they will probably do it in the last minute).
they have serious work to focus on, they don't have time |
Let me set this clear: We're not really criticizing the development team working on Adobe AIR. They're probably doing a good job within their time constraints. We're criticizing Adobe as a company and their way of managing their communication (or rather, not managing it) regarding the Adobe AIR SDK framework.
Even if the AIR development team is tiny and they supposedly can't reply because they're hard at work, Adobe is still a huge company and should have someone from their PR team take at least a little time, even if just a few minutes a month, to communicate with the AIR community about progress with the most important issues, as they used to do in the previous years. Of course, more communication than that would be better, but that's the least they could do.
you have too much disdain for Adobe and AIR to actually be using their products |
Now you're accusing all people complaining about this situation of not even using Adobe AIR and just writing to annoy people? Do you really think we would be here if we weren't AIR developers as well?
There are a lot of posts from people complaining about this problem. We can't all be "trolls" that don't use AIR. That's ridiculous.
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