Locked by Moderator, Not on subject anymore,AIR Roadmap Update

Hi.

I think that many like me have been following this thread and have been learning a lot with you all.

There are very interesting and not surprisingly conflicting points of view.

But please let's try to keep things respectful and towards the goal of this thread that is the roadmap update.

Besides commenting here, another way of helping is providing additional feedback by taking the survey that Chris suggested in the first comment.

Regards,

JC

That's a lot of words and posts to not add anything new to the discussion. Also, why do you even care what we think, I don't get it

So let me get this straight (apologies if already asked):   Can a module written in AS3 and compiled to .swf the formerly played in the browser live on past 2020 as an AIR desktop app?   In other words, can conversion to AIR desktop be a viable long-term strategy for Flash app developers who are being pushed out of the browser?

AR/VR support = AMAZING -- huge for AIR -- no end of applications

..and these are already on the list Chris wrote - so we're not panicking.

..that said, a super positive updated roadmap would be nice!

If Adobe made WebAssembly aka WASM as one of target output, I'd like to say: CONGRATS YOU SAVE FLASH.

We don't need HTML/JS/CSS target as it is being developed actively on Apache Royale and Anmate can export to Canvas+WebGL.

BUT WASM support directly from AIR SDK is a big win. We don't need a full support at a row, at least beta/experimental support is enough so devs can test and report for future release and improvements.

It is a SHAME if Adobe did not invest AIR on WASM. Because even language like Go has official support for WASM.

Flash API is rich, again it is a shame if Adobe did not come to the party.

Please support WASM from now on, and make the internet "Rich" again.

Any update on this? A new roadmap would be ace before we all start having to jump onto naff systems such as React Native...losing 20+ years of ace cross-platform development progress....yuk

The survival of AIR is critical to me. After 10 years programming Flash is still the best framework I know of.

Html5 is close to where Flash was in the early 2000s.  Unity3D defeats Flash in 3D, but their 2D environment is still very far from it.

In my opinion there are very few weaknesses:

1) Html5 / StageWebView

Flash is end-of-life in the browser.  This means a replacement is critical, which is why AIR needs to render Html perferfectly.

StageWebView is a weak replacement for browsers. Many pages don't load correctly. Some ANEs do a good job, like the RichWebView by MyFlashLabs, but still not perfect.

If Adobe purchased or built a browser that would provide full support for Flash this could also be a solution.

2) Video codec support

It seems kind of natural to want to playback any video.  I particularly think there is a big advantage to being able to play back videos recorded with the mobile camera.

3) Give life back to Flash games

There are so many amazing games that have disappeared from the internet over the years.  It wouldn't take much to allow people to play them on Android.

If a person uses StageWebView to open a site with Flash content then AIR should automatically become responsible for opening swf files which should be opened by html.

There are few problems following this.  Sometimes there needs to be access to Flashvars and javascript.  Other than that the only serious problem is that Security.allowDomain(...) causes a critical error.  A lot of the time this code isn't even needed in the game.  If this was simply a warning and the code was ignored this would mean most games would run correctly.

Controlling some of these classic games with touch could still be tricky, but it would be easy to create solutions.  Add-ons could be created to give gamepad support, and controls could be added over the swf.

Essentially StageWebView could turn AIR into a full blown browser for Flash content.

In my opinion the main reason Apple and Google killed Flash off in the browser is so that people would buy their apps in the stores.  Personally I think the internet without Flash games will be a much more boring place - especially if you think about what AIR will be capable of in another 10 years...

ASWC : Yes, the browser implementions of the HTML5 spec have finally copied all the functionallity of FLASH in 2002

I like the positive vibe here.  I agree it's the best and easiest way to do cross plateform and I love it.

But realitiy is; not even the adobe website's list of applications is there a 'software development tool.'

Infact they don't list any thing for app development on their site.

Animate is described as a way to make web animations.

https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/catalog/desktop.html

Air 30 - 64 bit only is a way to thin the herd of developers.

I would guess supporting the ever changing software development enviroment is alot more expensive than adding a feature or two to After Effects every year and selling the same image over and over to photoshop users.  It's about bottom line and supporting software delevopers is expensive.

Also missing from their main site is anything about the PhoneGap enviroment they bought.

Between the lines.   Read.

We - along with thousands of other teams worldwide - have finally crossed that line for the first time, and successfully launched both an Android and iOS release because of AIR.

We're using raw sockets, remoting, p2p, encrypted local db, encrypted storage, native code using ANEs for deviceCheck, Attestation and Verify Apps, Social Network integration, analytics and push notification with bi-directional threads handling image manipulation and large data management, and wirelessly connected microcontrollers. We're rendering our interface directly to the GPU so our UI transitions between views, scrolls lists and so much more as smoothly as any native UI and supported on every phone factor display. Starling and Feathers have finally brought all that Flex could have been - all that it wanted to be - to life, right on the GPU. We have development scalability with battle tested MVC framework Robotlegs -- ALL with NO FEAR of a need to refactor because of underlying platform changes. We can do SO MUCH so solidly, on a single code base and now with swift support, the same family of languages - I almost feel guilty when talking to other developers going through the nightmare of a young technology. Slight smirk at the native developers!

AIR was once the goto platform for Enterprises everywhere...  Criminals began focussing on the billion+ potential victims that Flash offered and along came Jobs...  AIR and Flash were thrown into the same hell, demonized and ridiculed..  nothing could have stood up to that onslaught.

That was the beginning of the end - we've just smashed through the end - and started a whole new beginning and it's called AIR 30!

I just wanted to THANK the company and the brilliance that have made this possible for all of us developers - stand up and feel the LOVE!  THANK YOU!!

Will AIR have a future on Chromebooks? We provide educational software and see a huge increase in Chromebooks users. We are able to install the Android version of the app on the chromebooks that support this but this won't work for most of our users since this is a feature only supported on newer chromebooks and for some devices still in beta.