It depends what market you have and what performance you need. Unity is the last truly good perf all platform framework with google flutter trying to cover all platforms as well. You can do cordova for all platform but perf is not that good. After that you have other solutions but they don't cover all platforms, xamarin is a good one for Ios and Android only and of course after that native dev. ... View more

Yeah HARMAN was really a last minute thing, I don't want to blame them, they have no budget, only a small team and they try to make money to justify having taken on AIR. Was there even an alternative beside HARMAN? Maybe not, Adobe was going to drop AIR and they needed someone to hold the hot potato, was HARMAN the only choice? Possible. For sure Adobe was very happy to leave AIR behind and not have to worry about it ever again. ... View more

Adobe has always been the problem, who knows what Flash and AIR could have become if Adobe never was in charge of their future, probably something amazing AND lasting. ... View more

I have no clue at this point, I haven't tried it yet. But the fact that's in the list is encouraging, this goes from nothing for the web to something for the web so I like it. ... View more

HARMAN has made a few changes in their roadmap, especially the long term where they have now added WebAssembly, now this is a lot more interesting for me. ... View more

In my particular case, it is not worth it anymore, it used to be the perfect solution though. Our top product generates millions of dollars every year and its target corner stone is the web (most users), from that code base we publish for desktop and mobile as well which are also used heavily, Android platform being the least used but is still important to us. So our AS3 code base while it still can publish for web (Flash) that target is gone by 2020 so we had to do something. We wrote a converter that converted our code base to typescript and most of our platform targets are now running on typescript/WebGL, the mobile being the last ones in the process of conversion/adaptation. So that's the sad truth for us, if we can't have a AS3 code that publishes for the web then we can't use AIR anymore, it doesn't fit our requirements. I would much prefer using AIR and AS3 to do all this but I can't anymore. ... View more

That's a thread about ideas and suggestions so of course you are going to see "me me me" ideas and suggestions, that's kind of the point. And of course you are going to see unrealistic ideas and suggestions that's also kind of the point of that kind of thread. Bunch of people here like working with AIR (including me) but find it hard or impossible to sell to their management anymore. So yeah we post here the features we dream AIR could have so we could keep working with it, it's sad but it's also fun. ... View more

Condescending and insulting .... Aren't you tired of being wrong constantly? You even manage on multiple occasion to argue against yourself (calling people "wrong" here for saying what YOU say on other forums) ... ... View more

"for Unity many platforms, the web in particular, do not implement the whole API" Oh please, don't go there. All cross platform techs adjust to their platform targets, that's literally what they are supposed to do. The web as a platform is severely limited and Unity adjust to those limitations like ANY other cross platform tech with a web target. Thanks really Mr Captain Obvious .... "for AIR, only 3 platforms? nope it is much more than that" Great, we can compile AIR for old computers/OS .... That was worth mentioning .... "but I would argue ANE can pretty much extend AIR to access anything" Sure but there's a point where you have to put so much functionality into your ANEs that the cross platform tech becomes almost irrelevant and you should just switch to native dev directly. The point here is that Unity out of the box platform based features compared to AIR is simply huge. The point here is that if AIR pricing compares to Unity (even if it's only in some scenarios) then we should compare the techs and see what we get out of the box for the price. Giving the state of AIR right now and how close to Unity AIR 33 pricing is, I think HARMAN is making a huge mistake and they won't get the "new users" they said they wanted. ... View more

I haven't really look deep into the pricing and even got some wrong but if the pricing comparison presented by juvelez is correct or fairly close then AIR might even by more expensive in some scenarios. If that's the case then it makes matters even worse for AIR. If there are scenarios where AIR is more expensive than Unity, then we should expect the most expensive option to also be the one that provides the most. Clearly it's not the case with AIR vs Unity. Again, if the comparison juvelez presented is correct then in the scenarios where AIR is more expensive who in their right mind would still pick AIR? ... View more

I see, I misread the Unity pricing completely then. So yeah AIR is definitely cheaper but like you said AIR shouldn't be compared to Unity anyway. ... View more

Actually let me correct what I said, my monthly fee for AIR would be around $100 per seat, while for Unity it would be around 125$ (42$ per seat), we have 3 developers still touching AIR so that's 300$/month for AIR versus 125$/month for Unity. In our case Unity would offer way more for 1/3 of the price. Note that the price difference is irrelevant for my company of course but when looking at what you get for the price + long term support then Unity is the obvious choice. I understand not everyone falls into the +500k category but in that range Unity is cheaper. ... View more

There's a lot of things I don't like about Unity so I'm with you on that. My post was mostly about comparing AIR to Unity in term of out of the box features and pricing and joining the point that AIR shouldn't be compared to Unity, it's not the same category/type of framework and HARMAN should give up on mentioning Unity in their communication, AIR can't be compared to it, and even after the long term roadmap is complete AIR would still not be comparable to it. There was a time though when AIR was playing in that same category (supporting all platforms, having tons of features) but that time has passed, now AIR is something else and personally I still think it's overpriced for what it offers in the sense that I don't see it attracting new developers. ... View more

125$ is actually for 3 seats so it's around 40$ per person. The list of what you get in term of out of the box features in comparison to AIR is huge. But my post was about comparing AIR to Unity so for 16$/month as compared to ~40$, if you wanted quite a lot of features/platforms from your framework then Unity would win even at that price and AIR would feel so poor and overpriced. If you don't need all those features then obviously you shouldn't have to pay that much for it and AIR would become more interesting. ... View more

You are 100% on point here. The overall technological comparison (overall is the important word here) between AIR and Unity is dreadful simply because AIR loses at every point. There's not one thing AIR does that Unity doesn't do better or way better, simple as that. On top of that of course Unity has more publishing targets. While a few years ago AIR could compare to Unity on some points or even come on top (2d), it's no longer the case. AIR is way behind, so HARMAN pricing is unrealistic in the sense that it will certainly not bring new developers to AIR. A new comer will compare prices, what the tech can do, and then decide not to go with AIR, simple as that. You are also correct, HARMAN should not compare AIR to Unity and should stop mentioning Unity in their communication. AIR is way too far behind, it simply doesn't compare. On top of that of course HARMAN long term roadmap simply confirms that AIR in 2/3 years will still be far behind what Unity is Today. Now again, as I said at the beginning this is the overall picture, many don't have a use for all Unity features or all AIR features and so on case by case basis AIR and Unity can compare and even AIR can be more attractive when you have a limited number of publishing targets and needs. HARMAN is prolonging AIR life but is not going to make it a more relevant technology anytime soon as their long term roadmap clearly shows. Once the roadmap is complete, AIR will still be a technology that won't be mentioned in cross platform articles and forums and for good reason. ... View more

Good one, HARMAN published their long term roadmap not long ago and it represents about 0.01% of your list. Maybe if we can wait 150 years .... ... View more

He fought us so hard for saying exactly what he said 3 weeks earlier .... Amazing. You know I had to post this. ... View more

Found this this morning and couldn't resist: zwetan_uk Jun 25, 2019: "here the joke, there are some so called "professional" that still don't know what is an EOL" zwetan May 30, 2019: "yeah I agree that’s why I also see it as an EOL from Adobe" https://discuss.as3lang.org/t/the-future-of-adobe-air/1780/2 It's got to be a different guy right? ... View more

Same workflow here, the basis is, each time I need to create new certificate I make sure I can compile to prod and run on device and whatever I had to do to make it work (sometimes it changes) I just keep doing it until I need new certificate again. I know it's lazy and some people might say "you didn't have to do that" but hey it's working! I had so many "fights" with Apple certificate that once I get something working then this is it for me. ... View more

I always make sure I include the beta-reports-active set to true but I'm using testflight so I need to, if you don't then just ignore this warning. And yes I do have <key>get-task-allow</key> set to false also. I comment this out with development profile (to install on device) and uncomment it for distribution/testflight. ... View more

Are you using SDK33 or 32? I compiled and published with 32 last week without problem. ... View more

Thank you, at least there are still people reading what I post. ... View more

Maybe you have never done it but there was such a thing as compiling a AS3 project for web, mobile, and desktop. As a matter of fact that was what we were doing with our top product, we had a AS3 code base and multiple output projects (in Flash Builder), 6 desktop, 12 mobile, 2 web and with a few clicks here and there we were compiling our product to all those targets. You want to convince me that I was the only one in the world to do that? Or have the need for it? I doubt that very much. Unity and flutter do have a web target, they have a desktop target, they have a mobile target, and more, and for some reason me wanting a AIR web target is INSANE, technologically impossible and nobody else wants it anyway, really? ... View more

Because I want a web target everyone else is wrong? Again this is pure fabrication, I NEVER said that, I NEVER implied it, I just said I want a web target and that's all. Stick to reality and stick to what people actually say. In fact, you are the only one here who said I was WRONG for wanting a web target while I never ever said people were wrong for NOT wanting one. ... View more

No negativity here, AIR doesn't have a web target, some people care, some people don't, so what? ... View more

I love how you come up with your own subjects that you can then try to debunk ... When did all this form in your head when all I said was "I want a web target" who knows? Now you are fighting with sockets, networking .... Earlier it was bytecode ... All I want is a web target .... ... View more

Unity does it, flutter does it, AIR doesn't do it, this might change if you roll on the floor but I doubt it. ... View more

It's ridiculous, so I've been doing it wrong for 10 years when with the same base code I could publish to desktop, mobile and web? Get real please. ... View more

Right on, the long term goals are published by HARMAN and they are so few and so not ambitious, it can only mean they have a very small team and very low budget to start with. So that's why there's no website really, no budget, that's why the long term goals are so few, no budget. Everything will be done according to how much income they get from AIR. Now for the people that want to say "that's how a business works" I'd like to remind you in business you can also INVEST money in hope to get a result, flutter was a HUGE investment it it still didn't get 1 cent of income, Unity was a HUGE investment before it started bringing income. HARMAN starts with minimum investment, minimum risks and minimum vision and will count every quarter the bucks to see if it's worth keep going, the chances of this "strategy" saving AIR in the long term are almost null. ... View more

Yikes, the long term goals (the most important for me) are very few and not very exciting and on top of that they will depend on funding. What this tells me is that the new AIR team is small, probably 5 to 10 developers (but more likely close to 5), and goals must be kept realistic but at least for me this is just not ambitious enough. For me it's simple, no web target, no need for that tech. ... View more