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Removing the borders and titlebar

New Here ,
Jan 15, 2008 Jan 15, 2008
I want to make some applications (swf or exe) without the default window look. I use windows, and i don't like its colors so i want my application out of borders. I think you understund me.
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Participant ,
Jan 15, 2008 Jan 15, 2008
I you're refering to the browser window - do that with html/CSS/JS etc, not Flash
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New Here ,
Jan 15, 2008 Jan 15, 2008
Hi dimitars,

If you're referring to the browser window, flatcoat99 is right on the money. If you mean AIR, your application XML should include something like this:

<initialWindow>
<content>myApplication.swf</content>
<systemChrome>none</systemChrome>
<transparent>true</transparent>
<visible>true</visible>
<maximizable>true</maximizable>
<minimizable>true</minimizable>
<resizable>true</resizable>
</initialWindow>

Be aware that not including the system chrome means that you have to supply your own close/minimize/maximize buttons and window drag bar.
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New Here ,
Jan 15, 2008 Jan 15, 2008
quote:

Originally posted by: patrickbay
Hi dimitars,

If you're referring to the browser window, flatcoat99 is right on the money. If you mean AIR, your application XML should include something like this:

<initialWindow>
<content>myApplication.swf</content>
<systemChrome>none</systemChrome>
<transparent>true</transparent>
<visible>true</visible>
<maximizable>true</maximizable>
<minimizable>true</minimizable>
<resizable>true</resizable>
</initialWindow>

Be aware that not including the system chrome means that you have to supply your own close/minimize/maximize buttons and window drag bar.

I think that we are talking about same thing. Please if you can write me some example. Please you are my only hope.
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New Here ,
Jan 15, 2008 Jan 15, 2008
No, it's desktop application, not web application. I mean on window borders:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8254/thisvg5.jpg
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New Here ,
Jan 15, 2008 Jan 15, 2008
Actually there are many hopes in the world of Flash 🙂 But here's the manifest XML file I use (I included comments where you will need to update):

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no" ?>
<application xmlns=" http://ns.adobe.com/air/application/1.0.M6">
<!-- update your application symbolic ID -->
<id>com.bnm.applications.devtracker</id>
<!-- update your application version-->
<version>1.0</version>
<!-- update your application file name -->
<filename>DevTracker</filename>
<!-- update your application description -->
<description>Time Tracking and evaluation tool for developers</description>
<!-- update your application name (for installer)-->
<name>DevTracker</name>
<!-- update your application copyright notice-->
<copyright>(C)opyright 2008 Bay New Media</copyright>

<initialWindow>
<!-- Most important! Update your main application SWF-->
<content>devtracker.swf</content>
<systemChrome>none</systemChrome>
<transparent>true</transparent>
<visible>true</visible>
<maximizable>true</maximizable>
<minimizable>true</minimizable>
<resizable>true</resizable>
</initialWindow>

<icon/>

<customUpdateUI>false</customUpdateUI>

<allowBrowserInvocation>false</allowBrowserInvocation>

</application>

Now use this with the AIR builder. If you use Flex or Flash CS 3, this is handled for you automatically. In your controlling class, create some basic buttons and use the NativeWindow class to invoke the window controls ( http://livedocs.adobe.com/labs/air/1/aslr/flash/display/NativeWindow.html). If you want, drop me a line by email and I can help you out (as soon as I get a few minutes). patrick (at) baynewmedia (dot) com
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New Here ,
Jan 15, 2008 Jan 15, 2008
I sent you a e-mail.
I use flash cs3 for making applications. Now if you have some time, write answer here or on mail. Thanks.
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Explorer ,
Jan 15, 2008 Jan 15, 2008
I do the same thing - use Flash to create Windows (and also Mac) programs; in my case, front ends for CDs.

Another option besides AIR is to use one of the "swf2exe" third-party tools to recompile the SWF as a native Windows .exe file. They will let you remove the OS chrome, and some have alternatives skins you can use instead. Many also provide ActionScript extensions for functions such as interacting with the file system, printing, etc.

Be sure to select one that's standalone -- that is, can create a .exe that doesn't require the Flash Player to be installed on the host system.

One hesitation I have about AIR is that it will require the runtime to be installed on the system where the .exe runs, and as it's just been released it doesn't have a lot of penetration. So for now I prefer to deliver the Flash-based app as a completely standalone .exe using one of those third-party apps.

Wikipedia has a short article on the subject and links to many of the major third-party vendors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWF2EXE_Software

I've tried several, but have stayed with Zinc, primarily because their support forum is excellent - their main tech support guy is highly knowledgeable and helpful.

Hope that's what you're looking for.
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LEGEND ,
Jan 15, 2008 Jan 15, 2008
Frank makes a good point about the AIR runtime...it's about 9 megabytes and
it is a bit of an annoyance. A possible solution to this two-step process is
to use an install maker like Inno Setup that can grab the runtime from a web
site (if not already installed) and then install the included AIR
application once done. But it is extra work.

Zinc is a great option. Another option from my Canadian brothers is
SWFStudio by Northcode. I played with this one quite a bit and prefer it to
Zinc (really mostly a perfonal preference...the feature set is generally
comparable as are the prices). Screenweaver was an excellent product (though
much more limited) but I've found that its inclusion in the haXe language
has somewhat dimished its usefulness. Still, it's open source so it may be
worth a try. It certainly could make a useful "bridge" application to allow
you to do all the things that AIR doesn't.

One of the biggest drawbacks to using pure AIR, at least as of the current
release, is the lack of command-line support (if AIR can't do it, you don't
have much choice), and no support for external application window
interaction (like controlling another application from AIR). I'm hoping
Adobe will include this in a future release.

However, one thing that AIR boasts is cross-platform compatability. It's
*very* similar to Java in this way...the same AIR application (like a JAR
file) will run on Windows, OSX, and Linux (among others). This does broaden
the market of AIR applications considerably. Also, the fact that you can use
JavaScript/HTML to develop AIR applications is a big plus on the
money-saving side (i.e. it can be free if you want it to be).

My two cents'

Regards,
Patrick Bay
BAY NEW MEDIA

"Frank_Elley" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:fmijdt$lbj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>I do the same thing - use Flash to create Windows (and also Mac) programs;
>in
> my case, front ends for CDs.
>
> Another option besides AIR is to use one of the "swf2exe" third-party
> tools to
> recompile the SWF as a native Windows .exe file. They will let you remove
> the
> OS chrome, and some have alternatives skins you can use instead. Many also
> provide ActionScript extensions for functions such as interacting with the
> file
> system, printing, etc.
>
> Be sure to select one that's standalone -- that is, can create a .exe that
> doesn't require the Flash Player to be installed on the host system.
>
> One hesitation I have about AIR is that it will require the runtime to be
> installed on the system where the .exe runs, and as it's just been
> released it
> doesn't have a lot of penetration. So for now I prefer to deliver the
> Flash-based app as a completely standalone .exe using one of those
> third-party
> apps.
>
> Wikipedia has a short article on the subject and links to many of the
> major
> third-party vendors:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWF2EXE_Software
>
> I've tried several, but have stayed with Zinc, primarily because their
> support
> forum is excellent - their main tech support guy is highly knowledgeable
> and
> helpful.
>
> Hope that's what you're looking for.
>
>

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LEGEND ,
Jan 15, 2008 Jan 15, 2008
Oh...one other thing I thought I should mention...AIR is basically an infant
Flash at this point. Like the Flash player, the AIR "player" needs to be
downloaded and installed. One thing I must say about Macromedia/Adobe, they
know how to get amazing market penetration. As long as the installers are
easy and painless, I'm pretty confident that AIR will become a standard on
most desktop computers like Java is now.

Regards,
Patrick Bay
BAY NEW MEDIA

"Frank_Elley" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:fmijdt$lbj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>I do the same thing - use Flash to create Windows (and also Mac) programs;
>in
> my case, front ends for CDs.
>
> Another option besides AIR is to use one of the "swf2exe" third-party
> tools to
> recompile the SWF as a native Windows .exe file. They will let you remove
> the
> OS chrome, and some have alternatives skins you can use instead. Many also
> provide ActionScript extensions for functions such as interacting with the
> file
> system, printing, etc.
>
> Be sure to select one that's standalone -- that is, can create a .exe that
> doesn't require the Flash Player to be installed on the host system.
>
> One hesitation I have about AIR is that it will require the runtime to be
> installed on the system where the .exe runs, and as it's just been
> released it
> doesn't have a lot of penetration. So for now I prefer to deliver the
> Flash-based app as a completely standalone .exe using one of those
> third-party
> apps.
>
> Wikipedia has a short article on the subject and links to many of the
> major
> third-party vendors:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWF2EXE_Software
>
> I've tried several, but have stayed with Zinc, primarily because their
> support
> forum is excellent - their main tech support guy is highly knowledgeable
> and
> helpful.
>
> Hope that's what you're looking for.
>
>

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LEGEND ,
Jan 17, 2008 Jan 17, 2008
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HI

You may also want to try FlashJester Jugglor

http://www.jugglor.com

It will work with your orignal Flash Projector hence it will be much faster
and less overheads than packaging in the Flash OCX inside it.

Try and compare them all.

Regards
FlashJester Support Team

e. - support@flashjester.com
w. - www.flashjester.com

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