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hamzamisterconductor
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January 23, 2020
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Adobe Audition mix, sounds completely unmixed!

  • January 23, 2020
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Hello community, 

 

So here is a strange problem I have run into with Audition and I fail to understand... I've been using Audition for the last 4 years, excellent workflow.. Then just as I updated to the 2020 version really weird stuff happened. 
1- The samller problem. When I save my session (working on a video) the video playback goes black, the track is there but I have to Link it again. Happens randomly ...
2- The really NOT COOL problem: 
I use the same plugins, same settings, same audio interface... all same I used with the 2019 version. I mix my tracks, mainly music, sfx, dialogue, then bounce all. 
Surprise, the mixdown sounds COMPLETELY different, dull as if run through LPF, gain reduced (not the -3 db one), mids up, and not at all what it sounds in Audition. So, at the same time, if I play it in Audition, the mix is fine, then I play the exported file: the mix is messed up.
I imported the SAME mixdown tracks to Audition many times to test and well, they even look different, and sound bad. No plugins involved , not even the native Adobe ones. 

I tried this without any plugins, absolutely none and I get the same result. 

I suspected the MAC first, then I have LPX and ProTools 2019 in the same machine and they work fine. I even loaded the same OMF into each and still Audition is the only DAW that seems to get things done awefully in the mix. I used the same plugins in all 3.  

Anyone with similar problems? your help is so much appreciated. 

Thanks

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chuckhawks
chuckhawks
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March 18, 2020

I am running a Mac with Catalina and on the 2020 version of Audition. I have similar but perhaps not exactly the same issue. When I mix clips to a file, the dialogue clip (podcast) is WAY lower - like 6 to 8dB lower than when in the Multitrack view. The surrounding music and open/close dialogue clips are unaffected but the main interview clip (using a mild DeReverb plugin only, nothing else) is not at all what was mixed down.

This is extremely frustrating (and unpredictable as sometimes it doesn't do it - same effects applied, etc.) and seriously has me questioning the integrity of Audition mixes. Am I going to have to worry about this in a music production or something more complicated than a 4-track podcast?? I can't afford to waste time putzing with an inaccurate DAW.

I've found no solutions anywhere for this situation (Pan Laws are not the issue and did nothing when I switched it from -3dB and restarted the app) and I'm going out of my mind trying to work with this issue.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
Community Expert
March 18, 2020

There's no evidence at all to suggest that Audition does anything to mixes other than what you tell it to. If this wasn't the case, there would be massive levels of complaint about it, and we'd have heard about it from loads of people. If you really have got a case of this happening, it would have to be reproducible before anybody would look at it. We'd need a sample of the audio concerned, and the session file, at a bare minimum. This would go for both of you - these being the only instances that have been reported here.

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NarlySoftware
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April 29, 2020

The only reason that there's any need for reasonable proof isn't to 'prove a point' or anything like that; it's simply to try to build a reproducible case. Without that it's very difficult to get the developers to take the appropriate degree of notice. Yes, all software has bugs. In this case we're talking about software running on different platforms and OS releases, and now with third party plugins implicated as well. In one sense it's a miracle that it runs at all...

 

The sample rate thing is interesting as far as actual sound is concerned. I don't know what happens about this on Macs, but on Windows, if you are not using ASIO, then if the sample rate you are playing your file at isn't the same as the default that the driver is set to, then the OS will resample it to that rate - without telling you it's doing that. And Microsoft resampling isn't good. But if something runs at a completely different speed in RX7 to the way it does in Audition, then I'd get very suspicious about the metadata. I have RX7 installed in the DAW upstairs, although I've never experienced that sort of problem with it, I must say. If you use RX7 as a plugin within Audition, and the same file, does the same thing happen?

 

However you look at it, if you have a file that runs at one rate in one app, and another rate in the other, then that's definitely evidence.

 

I don't have any Waves plugins, I'm afraid. But they have definitely had their problems in the past, certainly as far as Audition is concerned. IIRC last time there was a major issue, they ended up doing a rewrite; whatever it was, it wasn't Audition's fault. That was quite a while ago, though.


So Steve,

 

I'd like to get this resolved with Audition rather than without. What would you suggest that I do with a resolution as the goal?

 

I'd appreciate your advice as well as any pull you would have to get this looked at by whoever is ultimatily the programer that fixes it..

 

Regards,

Cliff Jones Dad of the Triple Triggers Band..

SteveG_AudioMasters_
Community Expert
SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
Community Expert
January 23, 2020

Well, it's a Mac, so I'm groping in the dark a bit here... but are you using Catalina? We know that there are some security-related issues surrounding that, and moving files in and out of Audition. These are currently being worked on.

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hamzamisterconductorAuthor
Participant
February 2, 2020

Thank you Steve, that was a fast answer, and sorry I just posted it before going in a weel vacation .... 
Well, no I am still on Mojave 10.14.5, 

My personal computer has the Catalina and strangely Audition works fine there. I do not use it often though. 
One thing popped to my mind is: 
This sound confusion happened first after I installed VLC player, could that be the reason somehow? 





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