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January 2, 2020
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Audio Post-for-film newbie--link media issue

  • January 2, 2020
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Hi. Wrestling with a massive project- a feature length film for which I recorded sound and am in charge of mixing post. I have Audition CC. I have an OMF file from the AD and have 3 hard drives containing all relevent audio/video files for the project. Upon launching the OMF, I get the error: 400 of the 400 files referenced by the session could not be found. Fine. So...

 

I proceed to "Link Media" and scroll to the folder for the first file, but what it is specifically asking me is to "Please locate the file 9b45d95a-f863-4eda-9360-657cd69d52da.1.wav for clip 4CH143I." So I easily locate 4CH143I and click "OPEN." So, that 1st file of 400 has now been identified and linked. But now it is prompting me to find the next clip (of 400!!) Surely this is not how this process should be working.

 

Anyone out there that can help an audio post newbie??

 

P.S. I have other questions as well. Many.

 

James

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jh21080688Autor
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January 4, 2020

NEW UPDATE---And not a good one.  Yesterday I put in about 12 hours of work on my audio post project, audio editing, cleaning up files, even some music stuff. I saved often. Plus I have autosave/back up enabled. Eachof the 7-8 times I manually saved, I was prompted to put all the relevant project assets in the project folder, as opposed to wherever else on the harddrive they were housed.

 

Each time, I selected YES of course. It was a satisfying and productive work day. Again, let me underscore, I saved constantly throughout the day. 

 

Today (12 hours later), When I opened Adobe 2019 and loaded up the project. by selecting 'open recent', it loaded up the project in the form PRIOR to my 12 hours of work and saving! It was as if I had done ZERO work the whole previous day. There were no other file choices to open, and the file name was unique and memorable to this work session. I poked around on the net and saw that I might go to the Creative Cloud to find my backups/recent files there. So I went there, and loaded up the most recent xml file from that library. Now it tells me that the 500 or so associated files for this project cannot be found and need to be "linked" (this again??). What am I missing, with this new stage of problem?  Ugggh.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
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January 4, 2020

Not entirely sure what's going on here (although I can hazard a guess...), but there is one thing that I am absolutely sure of - and that is that you cannot use any form of cloud storage as a place to write files directly to. The only way you can use cloud storage like this is to save the file locally, and transfer the saved file afterwards as a file, and not a 'save' process. With all cloud storage, you have no control whatsoever over the piece of wet string that you're trying to save the file via, and saving audio from an app like Audition simply doesn't behave very well if the transmission stream is interrupted - all sorts of strange things can happen. But this is all by the by - I don't think that's the issue, just something you should be aware of.

 

Okay, my hazarded guess is that you've saved the .sesx file using the files in the locations they were to start with, and just placed copies of them in the folder you backed the session up in. This means that your session file, as stored there, won't recognise those files as the ones it was using when the save was made.

 

My suggestion for minimising the possibilities of errors like this is to create a work folder for the session file, and within it place all of the material you're going to use before you start working on the session. That way, when you re-open the session file, it will know exactly where everything is. The other thing about backups is that you should read carefully what it says about them, and understand the consequences:

The first thing is that the recovery data is what it says it is - just a means of resetting Multitrack view to where it was at the save time using the session file data - nothing to do with the audio. The second thing is to note that the backups are only of the session files - not the audio data. That's the reason that you are prompted to save the current audio in the session folder - there's no way it's going into the cloud like that!

 

What it comes down to is that the responsibility for the audio is yours, and yours alone.

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jh21080688Autor
Participating Frequently
January 8, 2020

Hey Steve, sorry for the late reply. I have had no time to deal with this project other than on the weekend, so it is where I last left it. 

 

OK, I think I'm following your logic. But, when I say my work was not saved, I mean, none of the work--audio or otherwise--was saved. For example, I created and named a couple of Room Tone tracks--gone. I trimmed clips, inserted and moved files around, none of my changes to the session were there upon opening 12 hours later (under the name I saved the session, many times).

 

Re: your screenshot, yes, I have the same autosave settings you highlight. I am sure the audio file edits I did can be found somewhere once I dig, but I can't understand where all the actual 'work' I did went.

 

I should be able to get back on the computer on Friday to deal with this, but this is just to clarify a bit.

 

Thanks again, Steve!

 

Jacob

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
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January 2, 2020

Did you select 'Link Media' or 'Link All Media'? If it's all in the same location, it should link the lot automatically. At least, that's the idea...

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jh21080688Autor
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January 2, 2020

Thanks Steve. There is only a "Link Media..." button. But the files are not all in one folder--there are various types of files and dates because the production went about a year and a half. and the data has been handled by 2 or 3 people. But the files are all in the same Harddrive.

James

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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SteveG_AudioMasters_Community Expert
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January 2, 2020

No, there's definitely a 'Link All Media' button underneath the Link Media button - I just checked. The way it works in Audition with session files is that they can contain either relative or absolute locations, but if the job has been lifted from another machine, then these are going to be wrong anyway - that's inevitable because they won't be where they were stored when the save was done.

 

You mentioned an OMF though, not a session file. Can we have more details?

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