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jordank93183625
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March 6, 2019
Question

Audio Sync Drifts When Recording Podcast

  • March 6, 2019
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Hey Everyone!

I'm recording a 4 channel podcast using Adobe Audition and a Behringer interface. We started to film our podcasts and I've noticed that the audio we are recording in Audition falls out of sync with the video when editing in Premiere.  I've also noticed every so often there are very minor pop/clicks in the audio recording that seem coincide with the sync issues.

I've never had these issues when recording on an external audio device such as the h4n, so I'm fairly confident the issue is coming from Audition.  Additionally, I've tried 3 different interfaces (2 Behringer & 1 Presonus) and the issue still occurs.

I've been able to fix this issue by going through my timeline and manually syncing the Audition audio to the camera audio, but I would like to fix this so I don't have to do that.  Has anyone else had this problem and found a solution?  If not, do any of you audio engineers have any possible solutions?

Here's an example of a pop/click that I believe is causing the issue.  It's right before the man says "movements".

Dropbox - Audio Sync Issue Example.mp4

Audition Settings

  • Sample Rate: 4800hz
  • I/O Buffer Size: 512

Interface

https://www.amazon.com/BEHRINGER-U-PHORIA-UMC1820-Black-8-Channel/dp/B01EXI8Y9S/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1548969433&sr=8-3…

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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SteveG_AudioMasters_
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 6, 2019

jordank93183625  wrote

I'm recording a 4 channel podcast using Adobe Audition and a Behringer interface. We started to film our podcasts and I've noticed that the audio we are recording in Audition falls out of sync with the video when editing in Premiere.  I've also noticed every so often there are very minor pop/clicks in the audio recording that seem coincide with the sync issues.

How have you synced the bit-clocks between whatever you're recording the video on and the Behringer? Okay, I admit that that was a loaded question, because you haven't - there's no word clock input on the Behringer, so you can't. What you need to understand here is that just because it's 'digital' that doesn't mean it's perfect - there is in fact quite a wide (in sync terms) clock tolerance allowed for audio and indeed video recording. The only way you can guarantee that two separate recording devices with their own clocks will stay in sync is if you designate one as being the master, and lock the other one to it. This is what professional kit allows you to do.

As for the pops - well this could easily be sync-related - it all depends on exactly how you've edited the results. What happens if you run two almost-synchronous sources together is that all the time the clock pulses are less than one pulse apart, it will sort-of work. The moment they get to the whole-pulse point - well that's when you get a pop.

There are no good solutions to this, other than the one I've already mentioned. Quite often, material can get a significant amount out of sync - the drift over an hour can easily get up to a couple of seconds with equipment like Behringer produce - and that's an error of only about 0.01% on the clock speed. The normal 'fix' involves either stretching or shrinking the audio to fit the video (which still doesn't take account of local drift), or simply re-syncing the audio when the drift gets to an unacceptable state.

There's loads of information about this if you do a search using a term like 'audio word clock sync'.

ryclark
Participating Frequently
March 6, 2019

How are you recording the video for your podcast? Is it going onto a separate video camcorder and importing the video files into Premiere or are you somehow capturing it directly into Premiere? And then you get the playback sync issues when you have imported the Audition audio file into Premiere alongside the video?

Also I presume that you are using the supplied Behringer/Presonus ASIO drivers when recording into Audition?

SteveG_AudioMasters_
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 6, 2019

It's technically possible to capture directly into Premiere, but you still need either a direct stream from a camera into a port, or a capture card. However you do this, the camera provides the sync source to which the capture device locks (the device either being part of the camera or a standalone box). If you use the standalone box method and it's one of the cheap ones, then they won't lock a separate audio feed into the video either; you need at least a Canopus one to do that, otherwise the audio remains unlocked.

There is no way, regardless of what drivers you use, of locking the Behringer to the video capture or vice versa. However you use it, you'll end up with no sync, and the drift problems.