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Effects Brought Back in Audition CS6?

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April 21, 2012
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I, like many Audition users were disappointed to see many features stripped away when Audition 3 moved on to CS5.5. I was particularly frustrated that the convolution and vocoder effects were removed will these return in CS6? They are particularly useful tools for sound design (which is what I do), especially when creating transitions from one sound to another. I also thought the 'Generate..' effects were a major oversight, though I see a new version of 'generate tones' is to be in CS6, but what about 'Generate Noise'. Is it possible to have a full list of effects in CS6?

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Correct answer SteveG_AudioMasters_

There's a great feature matrix web page prepared for the launch. I'll see if I can get permission to post it, or at least its contents, here. Might be a few days as I'm out of the country right now.

Also, while Sarbanes-Oxley is the SarBANEs of my existence (see what I did there?) in many ways, Adobe Creative Cloud subscriptions may enable us to release features between standard release cycles. I know the idea of subscription-based software licenses is scary to many, and until I'm much more knowledgeable about the service and how Audition fits in, I don't want to say something incorrect or that I'll regret. (The internet remembers F O R E V E R.) When I have all the information, we'll talk.

Here's a quick list of the effects present in Au3 that are not yet ported as of CS6:

Generate Noise

DTMF Signals. (This can be accomplished manually within Generate Tones, to some degree.)

Pitch Bender

Stereo Field Rotate

Stereo Expander

Pan/Expand

Graphic Panner

Binaural Auto-Panner

Convolution

Dynamic EQ

Quick Filter

Scientific Filter

Dynamic Delay

Echo Chamber

Multitap Delay

Envelope Follower

Frequency Band Splitter

Vocoder

The other slight snageroo with effects list comparisons is that as of CS6, they aren't really going to be comparisons as such anyway. For instance, even if you say that the Dynamics Processor is present in AA3, 4 and 5, that doesn't tell you that in 5, it has side chain access, does it? You are going to end up with one heck of a lot of footnotes if you're going to do this justice, what with all the changes...

Anyway, I said I'd do a list of the effects in CS6, and having just gone through it, I can see why Durin doesn't want to - it's quite a long list! What I hope it does though is put Durin's list of exclusions into some sort of perspective...

Amplitude and Compression

Amplify

Channel Mixer

De Esser

Dynamics Processing

Hard Limiter

Multiband Compression

Normalize (process)

Single Band Compressor

Speech Volume Leveler

Tube-Modelled Compressor

Fader Envelope (process)

Gain Envelope (process)

Delay and Echo

Analog Delay

Delay

Echo

Diagnostics (yeah, I know... but they're in the Effects list!)

De Clicker (process)

De Clipper (process)

Delete Silence (process)

Mark Audio (process)

Filter and EQ

FFT Filter

Graphic EQ 10 band

Graphic EQ 20 band

Graphic EQ 30 band

Notch Filter

Parametric EQ

Modulation

Chorus

Chorus/Flanger

Flanger

Phaser

Noise Reduction / Restoration

Capture Noise Print

Noise Reduction (process)

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Adaptive Noise Reduction

Automatic Click Remover

Automatic Phase Correction

De Hummer

Hiss Reduction (process)

Reverb

Convolution Reverb

Full Reverb

Reverb

Studio Reverb

Surround Reverb

Special

Distortion

Doppler Shifter (process)

Guitar Suite

Mastering

Vocal Enhancer

Stereo Imagery

Center Channel Extractor

Graphic Phase Shifter

Time and Pitch

Automatic Pitch Correction

Manual Pitch Correction (process)

Stretch and Pitch (process)

Also Generate Tones and Match Volume are in the Effects pulldown menu.

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topmonkeyAuthor

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MusicConductor - I started using the first version of Cool Edit Pro at Uni and then bought my own copy of CEP 2.0, so yes I have followed the programs progress - how I miss the Brainwave Synchronizer lol. I managed to source an Audition 3 upgrade (fully legit) after downloading a trial of CS5.5 and deciding it wasn't worth paying over £300 for. I can't believe any Audition 3 users upgraded to CS5.5 - I have no idea why Adobe even bothered releasing it. But as you say, CS6 is certainly heading in the right direction now, I just wish they had spent less time on this alignment effect and more time on restoring 3.0 features.

therealdobro - I have high hopes for CS7. I shall be giving CS6 a spin when the trial arrives, so I will suspend my decision on whether to upgrade until then!

ryclark

Participating Frequently

Remember that if you were a Mac user you would never have used Audition before and therefore CS6 will be a revelation to them.

That's why it has taken so long because it had to be rebuilt from the ground up to be cross platform. This has also allowed the developers to make the code multi processor conscious and much more efficient/quicker. They wouldn't have been able to do that with the old Syntrillium/Audition 3 based code.

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MusicConductor

Inspiring

topmonkey, I agree that AA3 is superior in many ways to CS5.5 -- I'd be crazy to argue otherwise -- and glad you found a copy before it disappeared. It will forever stay on my system even after I grow to love CS6 or CS7 or whatever... But there is some forward progress in CS5.5 in that I could do multitrack album editing in it like never before. CS6 is going to rock... unless you need a brainwave synchronizer.

Looking forward to the trial/release and how well the multitude of new features & functions hit everyone.

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topmonkeyAuthor

Participating Frequently

Audition CS6 will forever be known as the 'nearly there' release. I just don't get the point of rushing a release and leaving out features that are almost ready, especially when said features were already previously part of the program. I'd rather wait for a version of Audition that ticks all the boxes and I'm sure most would agree with me.

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MusicConductor

Inspiring

That is, sadly, the nature of the beast when you have software releases coordinated company-wide, and a product team that works hard to eliminate as many bugs as possible so what IS there works well (safe to say that more bug fixes would have to equal fewer features). I don't suppose you were around and saw all the discussion (rants/arguments/justifications/whining) when Audition CS5.5 came out? So, as a long-time Cool Edit, Cool Edit Pro, and Audition user, I sympathize with your questioning the nature of things. But, at the same time, I'm glad that Audition is alive, well, kicking hard, and about to launch some fresh goods.

So let me encourage you to see the glass as 9/10s full, not a little empty, even if it means running back to an older version for the odd missing feature.

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noiseboyuk

Participant

Thanks Colin and Durin for clarifying even if the news isn't good. I appreciate you folks always have a list of missing features with people saying "but it's really important", but it's really important! Would be nice to just use 1 version of Audition.

This might be a bit OT, but in general it looks to me like you're placing Audition as a full scale dubbing tool. Is this correct? Such a hard market to break into where compatibility is king, but the feature set does now look very promising.

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noiseboyuk

Participant

I see here - http://www.adobe.com/content/dotcom/uk/products/audition/features._sl_id-contentfilter_sl_featuredisplaytypes_sl_new.html?promoid=JSLUD - under new effects it says "pitch bender". "Yay", I thought, that is such a staple for me, and one of the reasons I keep using 1.5 still. But then I saw on this very thread and here - http://www.adobe.com/products/audition/buying-guide-version-comparison.html - that the feature is still absent. Which is right?

_colin_

Adobe Employee

noiseboyuk wrote:
I see here - http://www.adobe.com/content/dotcom/uk/products/audition/features._sl_ id-contentfilter_sl_featuredisplaytypes_sl_new.html?promoid=JSLUD - under new effects it says "pitch bender". "Yay", I thought, that is such a staple for me, and one of the reasons I keep using 1.5 still. But then I saw on this very thread and here - http://www.adobe.com/products/audition/buying-guide-version-comparison .html - that the feature is still absent. Which is right?

This is an error by the web team and I have notified/yelled at them thoroughly, it seems to only appear on the UK version of the site as the US english pages do not have them listed. How they messed it up is beyond me.

To be confirm, Pitch Bender is NOT in Audition CS6, nor is Generate Noise.We tried to get pitch bender in but simply ran out of time (it's a relatively complex effect to port believe it or not), but it remains VERY high on the list for the future.

Colin

_colin_

Adobe Employee

For those following this thread, the CS6 web site just "turned on" about 30 min ago and you can now see the complete "buying guide" that does a fairly good comparision between 3, CS5.5 and CS6 (the web people only let us go 3 versions back total): http://www.adobe.com/products/audition/buying-guide-version-comparison.html

Colin

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topmonkeyAuthor

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Thanks for the link Colin - not sure it works, in terms of enticing people to upgrade though - if anything it shows how good Audition 3.0 is! Also, I found a mistake (sorry!) - "Noise Reduction processing " should be listed as being available in Audition 3 as well.

Steve - thanks for the alignment demo - actually doesn't sound THAT bad with sung vocals and it's something the Adobe guys could definitely work on.

SteveG_AudioMasters_

Community Expert

The convolved reverb is back, but I've seen no signs of a Vocoder (mainly because it isn't there...). Yes, there's a revised tone generator, but noise isn't included. I'm moderately confident that noise is in the backlog, but I have to warn you that like anything that isn't there upon release, it would look like a new feature if it was added later, and there appear to be one or two problems (think SarBox) about doing that - or there have been in the past with Adobe, anyway. Thing about noise generaters is that there are plenty of free or pretty cheap ones about, and whilst a few people think that they're indispensible, unfortunately a lot of others don't...

As for a full list of effects - well, I'd be the first to admit that the list of new and added effects doesn't look very long, and it's also rather confusing because you have to add it to what's already in CS5.5. If I get a chance tomorrow, I'll try and do a complete list, rather than the way it is. Is what's in the new and added list complete? I honestly don't know until I've been through it!

Paul_Ferguson

Inspiring

I'm not qualified, and probably no one is interested, but a useful document would compare the features in Auditions 3, 5.5 and 6. It could be a sticky in this forum. If this forum had stickies, I mean. :-)

_durin_

Community Manager

SteveG(AudioMasters) wrote:
I think that what it comes down to is that most people think 'I want x - does the new version do it?' and they want to see it in a list.

Well, that's how I think, so you might be right.

The reason I was thinking of a chart that compared features in three versions is it would be easy to steer people with questions to it. Plus, I might actually learn something.

There's a great feature matrix web page prepared for the launch. I'll see if I can get permission to post it, or at least its contents, here. Might be a few days as I'm out of the country right now.

Also, while Sarbanes-Oxley is the SarBANEs of my existence (see what I did there?) in many ways, Adobe Creative Cloud subscriptions may enable us to release features between standard release cycles. I know the idea of subscription-based software licenses is scary to many, and until I'm much more knowledgeable about the service and how Audition fits in, I don't want to say something incorrect or that I'll regret. (The internet remembers F O R E V E R.) When I have all the information, we'll talk.

Here's a quick list of the effects present in Au3 that are not yet ported as of CS6:

Generate Noise

DTMF Signals. (This can be accomplished manually within Generate Tones, to some degree.)

Pitch Bender

Stereo Field Rotate

Stereo Expander

Pan/Expand

Graphic Panner

Binaural Auto-Panner

Convolution

Dynamic EQ

Quick Filter

Scientific Filter

Dynamic Delay

Echo Chamber

Multitap Delay

Envelope Follower

Frequency Band Splitter

Vocoder

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