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Extracting CD Audio with Titles

New Here ,
Oct 04, 2023 Oct 04, 2023

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Maybe I'm missing something. So...If the CD title and track information doesn't exist in the CDDB Server Audition will only extract the cd audio with "CD Track 1..." etc.   Why doesn;t it extract the track namesmastered on the audio cd????

 

If I rip the CD using Windows Media Player, windows media player is able to read the Audio CD Data that is embedded on the audio CD. So as a work around I constantly have to use Windows Media Player to rip the CD and then import the audio back to Audition. Really don;t need the extra step.

 

It seems you need to make an improvement to the why Audition Extracts audio from the CD since not all titles are available on the CDDB Server.

 

It would be a nice enhancement if you program Auditon to extract not only the audio but the title information on the CD and also have an option to select that insterad of always pointing to the CDDB Server.

 

Thank you.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 04, 2023 Oct 04, 2023

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A couple of points:

 

All the CDDB databases are currently inaccessible (for the last couple of years). If you google this, you'll find out what happened. But this means that no downloadable information is available at all.

 

And, it's relatively few CDs that actually use the metadata titling facility. Even major producers like Sony don't - well not consistently anyway. If a creator uses DDP (like Sonoris, for instance) to send the CD data direct to the glass mastering machine then it's relatively straightforward to include all the data in the file. But if you go down a more conventional route, then it's all got to be handled separately. Since so few CD players can actually display this stuff anyway, a lot of producers simply don't bother to include it.

 

As CDs appear to be a dying medium, it's very unlikely that any effort at all will be made on data extraction.

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Oct 04, 2023 Oct 04, 2023

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Hi Steve,



Thanks for the reply. Need to correct you on a couple points. May want to google this. LOL

  1. CDDB servers are not dead. Freedb was taken down and now resides @ https://gnudb.org/. Take a peak.

  2. If CDDB servers were dead then the option in Adobe Audition to retrieve titles wouldn't work at all, but it does and only if the info was submitted to the server/service. However, the track titles always work when using Windows Media Player. Hmmmm....How interesting that happens.

  3. So this brings us to an important point. Are CD's dead. Not really, no more than vinyl is dead. 33.4 Million CDs where published last year. In total over a billion CD's were published since 1999. Where are these CD? They are everywhere collectors look for them, same with vinyl. Can't even count the number of vinyl records have been presses let along the high demand for 78 recordings that are out of publication. 

  4. So, the big question remains, why can't Adobe read meta/title data embedded in the CD. Most if not all CDs have data related to titles and information on the CD that where professionally published by any record label. That's why they appear when you use Windows Media Player to rip the CD, but not in Adobe unfortunately.

Yes, you are probably right on one point, Adobe will probably not address the issue.


Anyway. Hope this helps. Happy Collecting. Best, J

 

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Community Expert ,
Oct 04, 2023 Oct 04, 2023

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I said CDs appear to be a dying medium, not dead. Here is the evidence. They've had a slight blip last year as a part of their death throes, but as a medium they're in the same league as vinyl and cassettes. People keep going on about a renaissance of these old formats, but ultimately all formats go the same way - some faster than others (Minidisc springs to mind). There are a few die-hard advocates clinging desperately to the wreckage for each one, but that's about it.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 21, 2024 Apr 21, 2024

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Guys... CDs do NOT have metada embedded on them. The format was introduced in 1982, when ripping a CD to a computer's hard drive wasn't even possible. Programs like Windows Media Player rely on CDDB for this information, which in turn relies on user submissions. If it were on the disc, CDDB would have no reason to exist.

 

As for the CDDB servers, software developers have to pay a license fee for access. No license fee, and the software won't be able to get metadata from CDDB.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 21, 2024 Apr 21, 2024

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Oops... *metadata

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New Here ,
Apr 21, 2024 Apr 21, 2024

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This might be handy for those born after 1996. lmfao

 

The red book CDDA standards was amended in 1996 to include cd-text. If the person who authored the CD takes advantage of it, he/she can populate the available fields with such helpful info like track title, composer, performer, etc. Appropriate players h/w & s/w that recognize cd-text can then display them.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 22, 2024 Apr 22, 2024

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I’m aware of CD Text, but discs that take advantage of it are the
exception, not the rule. I stand by what I said about CDDB. Ignore it if
you want. 🤷🏼‍:male_sign:

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Apr 23, 2024 Apr 23, 2024

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lol

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 25, 2024 Apr 25, 2024

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Well, I found your thread this afternoon regarding Audition retrieving CD info through CDDB, gnudb.org.  You know, this has worked fine for me since the switch over from Freedb.org but today, I tried to extract a cd track and Audition didn't retreive any CD info, title, track song names, etc.  I thought it could be tied to this specific CD and so I put in another CD which I had extracted a track with the CD info on it back on 4/9/24(so just a couple of weeks ago) and got the same results as the first...no CD Title name, track names, etc. .  I haven't had any updates to Audition over this period.  I'm running Audition ver 24.0.0.46 and running it on a Mac Studio 2(Sonoma 14.4.1).  But to reiterate I have extracted several CD tracks over the past month which Audition retreived and supplied the CD Artist Name and Track/Song Titles but now when I extract a cd track, all I get is no Title, no artist, CD Track 1, CD Track 2, etc..  Another mystery with Audition...BTW, I DID check the Gnudb.org website and it is up and running....

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 25, 2024 Apr 25, 2024

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Yes, unfortunately something has happened VERY recently, and gnudb no
longer provides metadata in Audition. I think I’m using the 2015 version,
so I’m glad it’s not just me. I don’t know if it’s a gnudb issue or Adobe
changing something. The only thing I could find online was to make sure you
have a valid email address entered. I had none, but put mine in and it
didn’t help. Maybe I got on some kind of blacklist for using it without the
address for so long? Anyway, it worked maybe a week or two ago but nothing
now. 🤷🏼‍:male_sign:

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 25, 2024 Apr 25, 2024

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First of all, thank you for getting back to me on this.  I don't think you are on a "blacklist" for using it without a valid email address as I have been using it with my valid email address for years and now it has stopped.  I believe you're right that Adobe has done something very recently with it's use of gnudb or, maybe gnudb has done something to shut out Adobe Audition, either way, it is pretty frustrating...thx again

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Community Beginner ,
May 06, 2024 May 06, 2024

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Looks like it’s working again… hope your experience is the same as mine.

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Community Beginner ,
May 06, 2024 May 06, 2024

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Yes, mine is working also.  Great way to start the week out....keep our fingers crossed....thx for the update....take care...

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Community Beginner ,
May 07, 2024 May 07, 2024

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No problem at all! Hope this holds!

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