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How do I make a feedback loop?!?!?

Community Beginner ,
Apr 23, 2020 Apr 23, 2020

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Hi,

I have a challenge for all of you. I was watching this video (https://youtu.be/8jt5U9AFINY?t=4576), which is a reaper tutorial featuring an established podcast producer. In it, he briefly shows off how he creates a feedback loop that he uses as part of his sound design for his show.

I use audition and I tried to see if I could recreate it, and long story short, I cannot. I tried sending my track to a bus with reverb and thats about as far as i got. As far as i can tell, Audition wont let you send tracks back into each other like he does in the reaper video. Also I couldnt even figure out how to control the vocals so that they only go into the loop at the end. I tried every envelope, no good. SO! I would really appreciate it if anyone had any suggestions on how to create this kind of feedback. I've really hit a wall here. Thank you!!!!

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Community Expert , Apr 23, 2020 Apr 23, 2020

As a piece of nerd-ware, Reaper is amazing. No, really - you can do just about anything you can imagine (and a whole lot more you can't) with it in a fantastically complicated way, and make it as convoluted as you like. And I have to say that Reaper is one of the reasons that I like Audition - simply because you can do all the useful stuff much more easily and cleanly than you ever could in Reaper. Don't get me wrong - I have a lot of respect for it - but it's still nerd-ware.

 

As for having fe

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Community Expert , Apr 25, 2020 Apr 25, 2020

I should perhaps more accurately refer to it as channel-swapping. In Echo, there's an echo bounce, which sends the delayed result back to the other channel, and if you click on the track routing button on any effect, you can alter where it goes back to (that's the button next to the i button in the top RHC). By the time you've set up some of this in a chain, you can end up with a right mess... 😉

 

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Apr 23, 2020 Apr 23, 2020

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As a piece of nerd-ware, Reaper is amazing. No, really - you can do just about anything you can imagine (and a whole lot more you can't) with it in a fantastically complicated way, and make it as convoluted as you like. And I have to say that Reaper is one of the reasons that I like Audition - simply because you can do all the useful stuff much more easily and cleanly than you ever could in Reaper. Don't get me wrong - I have a lot of respect for it - but it's still nerd-ware.

 

As for having feedback on a track, try using the Analog Delay effect on your track. Or come to that, Echo. They both have this control in them marked 'Feedback' and yes, you can automate it, which is all you need to introduce the effect only where you need it. Even better, use both and do track-swapping effects with them.

 

So you don't need to make a complete mess of your project to have feedback on a track, and then have to put a warning on it - at all!

 

But the general rule in Audition is that you can't have recursive tracks because it's downright confusing, and that would require a warning label. Doesn't mean that you can't do it - but in order to do it, you need a multichannel interface and a bit of external routing, which is also what you have to do if you want to print effects direct to a track whilst you are recording it - Audition quite correctly won't let you do that either.

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thank you! thank you! do you mind clarifying what you mean by "track-swapping effecfts"?? 

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I should perhaps more accurately refer to it as channel-swapping. In Echo, there's an echo bounce, which sends the delayed result back to the other channel, and if you click on the track routing button on any effect, you can alter where it goes back to (that's the button next to the i button in the top RHC). By the time you've set up some of this in a chain, you can end up with a right mess... 😉

 

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sometimes a right mess is a good thing! Thanks for all of this!

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