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How do I "record" live with reverb

New Here ,
Aug 24, 2020 Aug 24, 2020

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Hello, I'll start by saying I'm pretty new to Audition and am NOT very experienced with sound editing. COVID is forcing me to have to learn stuff quickly. I'm a University professor and I am teaching remotely. Zoom sound is just not great for a trumpet, and I have downloaded the Audiomovers Listento plugin as a recommended way to have much better sound. I managed to figure all that out, but I'm wondering if there's a way to use Audition with live reverb and not just in post. I'd like to have my students hear me with a little bit more live sound than in my dead room. Thanks for any help!

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Aug 25, 2020 Aug 25, 2020

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Short answer - no, not record. Longer answer is that this is done for a reason, and that it can sort-of be got around - although you might not like the inevitable latency lag.

 

Audition will let you put an effect on an input and let you monitor it whilst you are recording, but the recording itself will be dry - this has always been regarded as good practice, since you can't remove it again afterwards - and it applies to all effects. And it can fool you. If you play back the track you recorded with an effect on it, the effect will still appear to be on the track - until you remove it. Then all of a sudden you realise what's happened!

 

If you have a multi-input sound device, then there's nothing to stop you taking a channel output with an effect on it as a direct output, and physically looping it back to another track and recording it there - that will print the reverb with your playing just fine, because it's not a track effect, but part of the input. And if you use that channel feed as a feed into Zoom, then you have at least got live playing with reverb - to do this, you just have to select a hardware output as a channel destination, rather than the Master fader.

 

But, you will get round-trip processing latency, and that's unavoidable. The best way to stop this being such an issue for you locally is to get as much of (all?) the dry return from the reverb out of it as possible, and just use the wet, where there's a delay anyway. And the trouble with this is that then you have to work out exactly what it is that you're sending to Zoom anyway...

 

I hope that this is of a little help at least - it's not an easy situation at all. Personally I wouldn't do it this way; I'd have a secondary feed from the mic on the trumpet fed to something like a small guitar amp in the room - via a hardware reverb unit, so you've artificially made the room a bit acoustically larger. But there again, I've got all this junk lying around so it's a bit easier for me. But if you could borrow the necessary, it would be a lot easier to set up than all this playing about with Audition and latency!

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Thanks for your thoughtful and helpful reply! Ok that all seems to make sense, haha, learning as I go, here...! I wouldn't be actually using the zoom sound at all-I'd be muting it there and using the Audio Movers listento plugin with the audition. But I still think that would be the same advice that you gave about reverb etc. Either way, I sound way better playing into audition than I do into zoom, so hopefully the raw sound on there will still be a big improvement over the zoom sound...!

 

I know musicians who use the audio movers through pro-tools and have the reverb effect, but I started diving into audition and don't know if I want to make yet another jump to pro-tools, for what I need to do.

 

Anyways, thanks again for your help and reply!

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