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October 24, 2011
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How to elimate "Lip Smacking/ Mouth Noises"

  • October 24, 2011
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Hi,

I,am a video editor/producer and am now producing a series of audio books. I purchased "Adobe Audition" and am impressed with the program.

As I,am a video editor, sound is "New" to me some so help here would be apricated.

I,am recording with an older actor his voice sometimes produces "Smacking" or "Gulping" Swollowing noises. I assume he has moist mouth or something like that.

Never the less he has a great voice and I want to use him but need to get rid of the noises. Any help out there.

Regards

Matt

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Participant
June 17, 2024
Participating Frequently
October 31, 2011

Hi,

I can't record anything without getting lots of clicks (a sharp fine line in the wavefile).  I've tried so many different things and I still get these mouth clicks.  Here's what I now do to help reduce the "click" noise.  I'm using Adobe Audition CS5.5.

After I record my audio I select a portion of the dead air for removing noise.  Then I highlight the file and go to Effects- Amplitued and Compression and select Tube modles Compressor and preset to voice leveler.  This will really compress your audio file.  Then I go back to Effects - Amplitude and Compression and select Hard Limiting with the preset on Light.

Now listen to your file and see if it has reduced some of the clicks.  Really loud clicks might still need to be removed manually.  You can also try DeClicker and the Click remover in the noise reduction window.  I'm using a Shure SM-58 Mic and it picks up all noises.  I might try working about 12 inches away from it to see what it does.  Normally I work about 6 inches away from the mic and sort of talk off to the side of the mic, but it still picks up my mouth clicks.  Hope the above steps helps a little.  It did for me,but I'm still experimenting for another fix to the problem.  Your comments are welcome.

Ed

edwardto@shentel.net

October 31, 2011

Hi Ed,

Did you have a lisen to my sample. I think I got it as good as its going to be.

I use a "JOE MEEK" ONE Q which I use the compressor on so dont want to over do it.

Did you have a lisen to my sample audio. I,am pleased with the result, what do you think.

Matt

Participating Frequently
October 31, 2011

Hello Matt;

As a matter of fact I did listen to the audio.

I like his Irish sound. And you did a nice job

in removing those annoying lip smacking

mouth noises. Sibilance is another problem

I've encountered. The older versions of

Adobe - Cool Edit Pro had a cure for it.

I'm using the newest CS5.5. I like it a lot.

Sorry, not I'm not familiar with the "Joe Meek"

One-Q setting on the compressor. Would this

be in Adobe? I'll try anything to help rid the

mouth noises. I do find that keeping a bottle

of water (room temperature) handy does help

reduce some of the smack noises. I never

experienced this problem when I was using

analog and tape and I worked very close to the

mic. Digital is more sensitive and distorts easily

whereas analog you could peg the meter once in

a while and not hurt your audio track. So nice to

hear from you. This Adobe forum is a good thing.

Ed

Participant
October 25, 2011

If you haven't recorded it yet, then fixing it at the source is best. Not my area of expertise, so I'll defer to others here on that. I'd imagine though that some kind of instant feedback for him would help him tone it down. Have him wear headphones to monitor the recording and boost the high frequencies slightly. That would make him very sensitive to it.

But it is possible to edit it by hand to some extent. Unfortunately no automated process is going to work, because while those noises are typically isolated to certain frequency ranges, they happen sporadicly in time. So a static filter cutting certain frequencies won't work well without the side effect of losing other content you want. Noise reduction won't work either, because it relies on the noise being at a consistent level, consistently present, and at a consistent set of frequencies.

But you can likely edit them out by hand with Audition. The initial trick is learning what they look like. In Audition 3.0 the menu sequence is View-->Spectral Frequency Display. Zoom in on the time scale so that only 5-10 seconds of audio are shown, around the area where there's a problem. Listen to it and watch the playback. You'll likely see a thick vertical line in the range of around 4-8kHz where it happens. Now select the Marquee Selection Tool (looke like a square with dashed lines) and draw a box snug around the problem area. You can either press the Delete key on your keyboard, or go to Favorites-->Auto Heal. Delete will erase that area of audio, keeping everything else around it that you want. Auto Heal will blend it a bit more than deleting it, but takes a moment for the processing.

You may have to adjust the settings on the spectral display to more clearly see the artifacts. In Audition 3.0 this is accessed by going to Edit-->Preferences-->Display and then try Bands in the range of 512-1024, window width 100%, and dB range set to 80dB. Hanning window should be fine - pretty much anything other than Triangular is good.

Tedious, but it should work as long as you isolate the right areas. If you have a great recording and this only happened a few times I'd do this. Otherwise if you haven't recorded it yet then stopping it acoustically at the source is best.

October 25, 2011

This is one of the most common if not really annoying aspects of voice recording.  As SteveG mentioned...mic placement, talent standing and only h2o are all you can do and it's roll up the sleeves and start editing out or doing re-takes.   I've found that when the talent starts to go into what I call...mung tung, piffle or denture clicks... I have them purse their lips together and blow for a minute or two and have them wipe their mouth with tissue at the ready, which does help.  There is real no cure.

October 25, 2011

Hi All,

I,am going to take this in stages as suggested. plenty of H2o, Ask the talent to stand and place him back from the mic.

We are recording tomorrow so I will report back then.

I will take onboard the suggestion not to use the 'Noise Gate". I get what you mean about the  audio being unlistenable. Cerating holes in the track is not the way to go.

Thank for all your help men.

regards

Matt ryan

Bob Howes
Inspiring
July 7, 2017

It's still best to fix this at source, if you can...


I THOUGHT I recognised this thread from years ago!

As SteveG says, this is one best eliminated at source.  Have your voice talent keep their mouth moist but avoid any alcohol or any drinks (tea, coffee) containing milk because that can make the mouth more sticky.  Same with fruit juice.   Plain water is good, as is tea with no milk and sugar.  Lately I let a voice artist use iced tea which seemed okay and I've had a guy in who swears by Gatorade.  Well, it works for him.

Also, mic position can make a difference--rather than repeat things, have a read of the previous discussions.

If you have something you MUST fix in post production, my tool of choice is the spot healing brush tool in spectral view.  Yes, it takes a bit of time but you'll be surprised how quick you can get.

Finally, don't forget that you're listening to the stuff over and over.  The audience is probably only hearing it once.  The occasional slight sticky mouth is something people hear many times every day.  It's possible to be too fussy.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 24, 2011

Difficult with that sort of noise. Record him slightly off-axis and slightly above mouth level, but I'm afraid most of the answers to this lie with him. One thing that's quite important is to make sure that the only thing he has to drink anytime around the sessions is clear non-alcoholic liquid (ie, water). Most specifically, avoid fruit juice and anything milky, like tea or coffee - although both of these are okay if taken black. Anything else is likely to cause more mucus in the mouth, and that's really going to hype up the 'smacking' noises.

October 24, 2011

Hi Steve,

Many thanks for the reply.

Someone has suggest ther "Noise Gate". Do you think that might help.

Matt

SteveG_AudioMasters_
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 24, 2011

a gift of heritage wrote:


Someone has suggest ther "Noise Gate". Do you think that might help.

Not really, otherwise I would have suggested it myself. All that happens if you use a noise gate is that you lose not only the sound from the speaker's mouth, but also all of the background noise - and when this comes and goes it will create a 'pumping' sound that after a very short while, will become even more annoying than the sounds you are trying to eliminate - seriously. The only times you will sometimes get away with this (or any other form of volume expansion) is if your voice-over is over a reasonably loud music bed, or other noise, that's louder.

But you said that this is for an audio book, so it's unlikely that the foregoing will apply at all. If people are going to have to listen to him for any length of time, then you really must do something about this at source. I'd be the first to admit that this can be a problem with some talent, though. One thing you can try is to get him to listen to a recording of himself, and see what he thinks about it; very often people are their own worst critics, and that may be all he needs to address the issue. At least it would give you a starting point for talking about it...

If he sits to read, then another thing you can try is to get him to narrate standing up - a lot of actors prefer to do it this way anyway. It will help him to control his breathing rather better, especially on a long read. But, if this is really bad then you will almost certainly have to employ all of the techniques I've mentioned.