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April 3, 2009
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Imminent Forum Demise

  • April 3, 2009
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As you are no doubt aware:

>ANNOUNCEMENT: Forums will be unavailable for planned system maintenance starting at 3pm PST on April 3, 2009. New forums will be online on Monday April 6, 2009.

Will the last person to leave please turn out the lights?

And if you want to go somewhere to get your questions answered where you can also do useful things like post screenshots and files, etc then you are more than welcome at AudioMasters where we might get the odd blown fuse, but at least we can mend them...
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    MusicConductor
    Inspiring
    July 29, 2009

    Oh, believe me, Steve, I don't think this forum is actually good, or likable, but those tiny improvements I mentioned above were things that we'd all complained about.  Sort of like pulling weeds on the way to the poison ivy patch.

    No, it still doesn't keep me logged in when it's supposed to, nor does it correctly remember my Adobe ID because it puts up my email address instead of my ID name on the login page.  And this thing takes a long time to load a reply page on my state-of-the-art fancy wancy Dell computer.  Or load anything on this forum.  I won't rehash what this does to my old Pentium III, but it almost has to be seen to be believed.  AudioMasters remains next to instant.

    Hey, do you think we can actually push this to 10,000 views?  That would be something.

    Consider the dictionary definition of "Jive."  They're just living up to the name.  I wonder exactly how much stock Scott Adams has in this thing?

    All this complaining isn't healthy or godly, so I'll go back under my rock now for a long time.  Ya'll have a great day!  Somewhere else!

    R
    RonNovy
    Participating Frequently
    July 29, 2009

    Ok aside from some of my erroneous comments in this thread I actually have something constructive to add...

    I've noticed that most of the crashing occurs when I have other tabs open besides the forum.  When I have my yahoo mail open this forum sometimes crashes when I try to reply.  If I close all other tabs then I can reply, but wierd things start to happen to other tabs that I open.  If I start to reply to the forum and then open up my yahoo mail and start to reply there and switch to the forum and then back to the yahoo mail then the font in my mail is turned bold and has grown in size...  I don't know if it's this forum causing the font issue because I kind of remember that happening a few times before, but the fact that I can't reply when other tabs are open is interesting...

    This computer only has about 256MB of physical memory so maybe the forum is trying to get memory, but the request fails and the code isn't checking to see if the memory allocation failed or not ???

    Maybe they didn't close a block somewhere ???

    Maybe this reply will get through...

    ryclark
    ryclark
    Participating Frequently
    August 8, 2009

    I always notice an increase in CPU cooler fan speed when viewing this forum. So I have just been monitoring processor use on this and the Audimaster's forums. On my dual 3GHz this forum peaks at a massive 55% usage when going backwards and forwards through the threads whereas Auddiomasters is a minimal 9%. Just scrolling up and down a page seems to use anything up to 25%.

    What a waste of processing and power!

    Bob Howes
    Bob Howes
    Inspiring
    April 12, 2009

    For what it's worth, I spoke too soon about the email issue being solved using Eric's method.  I awoke to a flurry of notifications this morning.  My working theory is that the "cure" lasted only as long as my Firefox tabs kept me logged in.  Maybe I'll experiment some more but I'm not sure how much I care.

    Also, I don't want to raise my head too far above the parapet or I might be "Peter Larsened".

    P
    plarsen
    Participating Frequently
    April 12, 2009
    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    SteveG_AudioMasters_Community ExpertAuthor
    Community Expert
    April 7, 2009

    Another thing I'm getting somewhat hacked off about is that I've discovered that I have to make a deliberate attempt to stop email notifications all over the place - by default they seem to be turned on. And even after I've turned them off, they get turned back on again.

    Somebody should be taken out and... made to alter all the defaults. Or just bring back the old forums. They weren't great, but they were nowhere near as bad as this one is. You'd have thought that they'd learned their lesson from last time, wouldn't you? But no...

    D
    Dave K4
    Participant
    April 8, 2009

    And also if you click on "stop email notifcations" for a particular thread, nothing happens and they remain on even if you've changed your default preferences. I've now put forum mail on my spam list to get rid of it.

    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    SteveG_AudioMasters_Community ExpertAuthor
    Community Expert
    April 8, 2009

    Dave K4 wrote:

    And also if you click on "stop email notifcations" for a particular thread, nothing happens and they remain on even if you've changed your default preferences. I've now put forum mail on my spam list to get rid of it.

    That's probably a good idea - as is creating a separate account called adobespam@... and redirecting it all there. What appears to happen is that whenever, and every time you make a post to a thread, the email notification thing automatically gets turned back on, so after every post you make, you have to turn it off again - unless you want to get the email of course.

    Anyway, that sucks big time too.

    Bob Howes
    Bob Howes
    Inspiring
    April 6, 2009

    I know I'm off in the wilds of Australia but I'm finding this new format pretty slow to load when I click on a new thread or hit the "Reply" button.

    Also, anyone else slightly concerned that Audition doesn't merit it's own graphical shortcut on the main "Forums" page and has been relegated to the second division "use the drop down menu" apps?

    Bob

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    Eric S 1
    Participating Frequently
    April 6, 2009

    And have any of you noticed the "points" system implemented?  On calrec's thread about the installing Cool Edit on a new hard-drive, there is a point system listed at the top of the post - 10 points for a correct answer and 5 points for a helpful answer.  Why?

    A
    Anonymous
    April 3, 2009
    Is this thing on?
    M
    MusicConductor
    Inspiring
    April 5, 2009

    Yep, looks like it is!

    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    SteveG_AudioMasters_Community ExpertAuthor
    Community Expert
    April 5, 2009

    MusicConductor wrote:

    Yep, looks like it is!

    On??? Well I don't think so. I think that it's pretty 'off' to have ditched all of the FAQs without so much as a 'by your leave', and the software formatting hasn't even picked up the quotes in previous messages properly.

    On top of that, there doesn't appear to be an easy way to see whether a thread has been updated unless you want to use that horrible RSS thing (which I don't). The whole thing appears to be a bit of 'nicey nicey' but with no easy way to use it. The old forum sucked somewhat, but it was nowhere near as bad as this.

    I mean, having your text in some stupid font really makes a difference to the content, doesn't it?

    The whole thing is the triumph of form over function.

    M
    MusicConductor
    Inspiring
    April 3, 2009
    G'night, Gracie!
    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    SteveG_AudioMasters_Community ExpertAuthor
    Community Expert
    April 3, 2009
    I don't think that it's inherent in BT connections because I often check the forum from a BT-provided system and I don't have any difficulty with it either. And that's not exactly a million miles from DaveK's location...
    D
    Dave K4
    Participant
    April 6, 2009

    SteveG(AudioMasters) wrote:

    I don't think that it's inherent in BT connections because I often check the forum from a BT-provided system and I don't have any difficulty with it either. And that's not exactly a million miles from DaveK's location...

    OK, couple of clarifications:

    Other PHBB forums are fine, it's only Audiomasters I have a problem with.

    And when I say BT I mean BT's internal network web filters, not BT Internet. It works fine from home over BT Internet,

    Dave

    PS - couldn't see how to quote the posting I was replying to!

    PPS  - as you were - found it.

    PPPS - and just tried AM again  - it worked, once, then next time it got blocked.

    T
    TheodoreG
    Participating Frequently
    April 7, 2009

    MusicConductor wrote:

    I can't understand the permanent loss of the FAQs.  Hopefully we're wrong.  Add to the disappointments the sluggish behemoth that the programming of these pages makes my computer.

    Whilst I would like to share your hopes, experience taught me years ago that optimists tend to be the ones who get disappointed 99.99% of the time, and it's pessimists who get the occasional nice surprise, because their expectations are effectively zero, and they are therefore only very occasionally disappointed!

    I haven't tried the forums with any version of IE, because I stopped using that bugged piece of grungeware years ago. But I have to say that having a forum that isn't browser-agnostic is also NOT VERY CLEVER, IS IT???


    I wonder if there are any backups for the message archives that had been in the Adobe Forums.  If Adobe really is discarding several years worth of discussions, FAQs, etc., it is quite an unnecessary waste.  I tried checking the "Wayback Machine" on archive.org, but its coverage of the Adobe Forums is very patchy.  Maybe it would have been better not to divide discussions into categories tied to specific versions of the software.  If someone at Adobe decides, "Audition 1.5 is old, so let's delete all the messages in that category", it would have been better just to have a general category that does not name software versions.

    A lot of the discussions I see under version-specific headings are not really version-specific anyway.  I saw things like questions on dynamic range compression under "Audtion 2.0", and 32-bit versus 24-bit formats under "Audition 1.5".  Due to a user's quirk of posting these in one forum or another, the messages either got deleted or didn't (if under the "Audition 3.0" category, which was preserved).

    For the Audition General Discussion, is the set of messages fairly complete from before the transition?

    Bob Howes
    Bob Howes
    Inspiring
    April 3, 2009
    Is this new? I was a BT Internet customer before I left the UK and never had any problems with Audiomasters.
    A
    Anonymous
    April 3, 2009
    Hmmm....we will have to look into that one DaveK!
    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    SteveG_AudioMasters_Community ExpertAuthor
    Community Expert
    April 3, 2009
    >I'd love to use Audiomasters, but the format of the URLs used for the content pages is blocked by BT's security software as it identifies them as hacking tool sites.

    I'd be inclined to take that up with BT, considering how many phpbb forum sites there are around. I think that they are being a bit over-protective here; I don't recall anybody ever reporting us as being hackers!
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