My mix sounds much louder in Audition than in Premiere...

[leok17]

Hello
Thanks in advance!

I made a basic mix of my short film in Premiere. Now i sent it to Audition to finish but it sounds much louder in Audition.

The clip levels are the same in both apps, the Volume envelope in Audition is at 0.

I am switching from Premiere and Audition, playing the same section in both and it sounds much louder in Audition and the meter shows that difference even though everything seems the same.

Any ideas why?

I could try sending the mix again from Premiere to Audition without selecting "Pan and volume information" but i dont want to remix all those levels again...

Thank you very much!

Leon.

[chrisw44157881]

it depends. are your premiere audio tracks stereo or mono? they affect the sub mixdown volume.

also,

modifying the Panning Mode setting either in the session properties panel, or globally in the Preferences > Multitrack menu.  Changing the preference will only affect new sessions - existing sessions will still default to the previous settings.

or you can also edit the sesx file  as xml.

<mixingOptionState panPower="-3"

defaultPanModeLogarithmic="false"/>

[ryclark]

What is the level difference shown in Audition against Premiere? Are you playing these files back in the Multitrack or Waveform view in Audition? If in Multitrack check them again in the Waveform view as well.

[leok17]

Hello
Thanks for your answers!

I am having problems with mono and stereo tracks, some are good and some are not.

The difference between the levels in Premiere and Audition is around 3db, sometimes more... but when combine with all the track is much more than just 3db.

The volume in the waveform view and in the multitrack are the same.

I changed the preferences>Multitrack -> Left/Right Cut (Logarithmic)

But i am still having the same problem. It doesnt match.

I check the peak amplitud of a  sound effect stereo clip in Premiere (G) and is -4.0db and the same clip in Audition gives me a peak amplitud of -4(left) and -9.3(right) (in the Amplitude statistics-> scan selection)

With some clips happen there are more difference and some are perfect.

Thank you very very much

[SteveG_AudioMasters_]

leok17  wrote

With some clips happen there are more difference and some are perfect.

I'm not surprised, and this is Premiere's fault entirely, as it imports (and presumably exports) files at different levels according to what audio track you put them on. Premiere's audio is, quite frankly, not really up to much when it comes to levels, as a lot of users have found. Audition, on the other hand, is at least consistent, even if the pan law behaviour is a little surprising.

What if comes down to is that if you move clips from Premiere to Audition and back again, then you have to be careful, and unfortunately there is no guarantee that levels will be consistent. You may like to inquire on the Premiere forum about when they're going to fix this...

[chrisw44157881]

I 2nd steve,

I always use mono tracks in premiere so things don't go crazy. also, any 5.1 exports I do mono as well so they stay within spec. any stereo stuff creates funkyness in adobe. He will need to edit some things. There should be like a big warning banner in the help files. checking...nope, no big red banner warning, hehe.

[samsan]

Hi

Has this been solved somewhere? Im having the exact same problem. Some audio is +6db when I export a Premiere sequence to Audition.

Thanks

Sami

[leok17 · Accepted solution]

Hello

I just solve it this week.. i think.

I was with a technical support online for hours trying to solve and nothing.

we erase the the media cache files to reset the preferences and free space.. (can't find the path now, I'm not in my computer)

But i think it was through library-> application support - adobe. and i remember there were two folder.

The guy told me the main problem was that i had many files with different sample rates (44k, 48k, 22k, etc)

I converted a few to match the 44 or 48k but nothing.

I had the main problem with one track, the VO track.

I had many cuts of the same audio in that track. What i did is go back to premiere, exported that whole track as 1 file (from 22k to 44k) and then reimported that audio track to premiere and then I send everything to Audition.

Instead of transferring the VO track with many clips,it was 1 file and that solved it. It seem that that file was creating this issue, even thought some other files gave that problem.

Also, you can try creating a new premiere project and then importing the sequence or the whole project. and try.. it didn't helped but sometimes it helps.

Hope it helps. I would do that same i did for some tracks and try it. then once in Audition you can slice those track again.

All the best

Leon

[chrisw44157881]

probably that one clip was stereo, forcing the panning law into effect to reduce volume by 3db.