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Spacial Audio for 360 degree video

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August 25, 2016
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When will Adobe Audition support spacial audio for 360 degree video?

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Correct answer Charles VW

Can you go into more detail on what you would like to see? We can't really make forward looking statements saying that any particular functionality will come by a certain date. You can, however, tell us what you want and we can consider that feedback along with other priorities.

BernardDigital

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have not used it but here seems to be the best current solution... will start testing soon

https://dysonics.com/rondo360/

Bob Howes

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Not that it helps this discussion at all but there was a good discussion on radio here about how VR cinema Could work. Basically it degenerated into to an argument among producers about how they want it to work...and there were some quite different ideas about what They wanted.

SteveG_AudioMasters_

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Bob+Howes wrote
Basically it degenerated into to an argument among producers about how they want it to work...and there were some quite different ideas about what They wanted.

This is why, 50 years later, we've got precisely nowhere!

BernardDigital

Inspiring

Has there been any update for this?

I specifically have a 360 video and we used the zoom h2n with updated firmware to record the spatialized audio. My question is how do I mix in the VO that we recorded in a studio? I want the user to be able to look in any direction and hear the natural audio but when the speaker comes on it sounds like they are omnipresent or the audio is coming from all around...

Thanks!!

SteveG_AudioMasters_

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BernardDigital wrote
Has there been any update for this?

Not yet, and because of Adobe policy regarding advance announcements (see Charles' comments above), we won't have until it (whatever 'it' is) has happened, I'm afraid.

BernardDigital

Inspiring

Yes, I saw that when I first read the post... Being it has been 9 months since the thread was started and Charles reply was in Aug of 2016... I was hoping there would be some updated news

Adobe... Dragging their feet as usual... ugh

Charles VWCorrect answer

Inspiring

Can you go into more detail on what you would like to see? We can't really make forward looking statements saying that any particular functionality will come by a certain date. You can, however, tell us what you want and we can consider that feedback along with other priorities.

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efassbender

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Charles VW, I'd like to invite you and everyone else who is interested in Spatial Audio to the Facebook group Spatial Audio in VR Public Group | Facebook There is a tremendous conglomeration of industry professionals who, I am sure, will be more than happy to tell you what they would like to see in a Spatial Audio DAW. I personally am currently held back to develop spatial audio (even though I am recording it!) by the lack of a common standard across playback platforms (Samsung Gear VR, YouTube 360, Oculus Rift, HTC Vive to name a few). What the industry really needs is for Adobe to lead the way, like you did when you were the first to offer H.265 export from Premiere. So what i would like to see is a way to comfortably ingest A-Format and/or B-Format files, edit them in Audition with a visual SurroundScope option that shows us where each sound is on the vertical plane and then export to ONE format that is supported by all major playback platforms. My wish list for Christmas 2017

SteveG_AudioMasters_

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efassbender wrote:
So what i would like to see is a way to comfortably ingest A-Format and/or B-Format files, edit them in Audition with a visual SurroundScope option that shows us where each sound is on the vertical plane and then export to ONE format that is supported by all major playback platforms. My wish list for Christmas 2017

By using the Harpex decoder, you can more or less do this now, certainly as far as the editing is concerned (although the integration isn't brilliant - yet...) but as far as the output format is concerned, I don't think you'll ever satisfy everybody. The best you could hope for is a satisfactory domestic format, but we know full well that just about everybody doing multi-speaker presentations, etc will laugh derisively. I've been lurking Sursound for a heck of a long time, and watching the arguments and reading the discussions, often on a daily basis over the years, reveals very clearly that we are no further forward with this than we were in the 1970s!

SteveG_AudioMasters_

Community Expert

What specifically do you want it to do in this regard?

Bob Howes

Inspiring

Lol...36 hours ago I would have had to ask the same question...but my 12 year old son bought a VR headset yesterday (well, I bought it as a reward for a particular achievement at school) and on the best Youtube 360 videos, swivelling your head changes the audio information as well as the images.

I found this guideline for uploading spatial audio to Youtube. Use spatial audio in 360-degree and VR videos - YouTube Help I imagine there's a more detailed spec somewhere but this gives a rough Idea of what's needed. I'm overloading my addled brain trying to work out if Audition could emulate the files as needed using existing options--but, unless VR and spatial audio become a flash in the pan, it's probably something the developers will have to consider a short cut for.

As an aside, I saw an interview a few days back with a friend who happens to be an award winning sound designer in the West End, on Broadway, and lots of world tours. He's looking into 3D audio with everyone in the audience having Ossic headphones. If it was anyone besides Gareth talking about this, I'd have laughed...but he has the street cred....

ryclark

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That's all very well for specifying the end product but where do you start to originate the audio? Would a Soundfield mic provide suitable output for encoding 360deg audio for instance?

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