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Stretching clips back to 100% without overlapping

New Here ,
Mar 03, 2020 Mar 03, 2020

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I have to edit podcasts that last an hour plus, and so stretched the file to 60%. Then cut down unwanted portions. However upon stretching it back to 100%, all of the clips run into each other. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to tell Adobe "don't overlap clips--have the next clip start at the end of the first clip."  I tried merging the clips and then stretching those proportionally, but the file becomes lower quality.

Surely there is some feature to stretch the clips back to 100%, and keep them in order, and *not* have the newly returned 100% clips run over each other in a series of very confusing overlaps which I must now separate one by one, eliminating any time I actually saved by editing the file at 60%?  


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Mar 03, 2020 Mar 03, 2020

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I'm sorry, but WHY ON EARTH are you trying to edit like this? Multitrack view has very easy scaling built into it, which means that you can manipulate your way around almost any length of file with ease.

 

The answer to your question is simple though - you cannot achieve what you want at all. If you shrink a clip, put a split in it, shrink one of them and join it up again you've created two clips - each with their own fixed start point. Start points for stretching are always from the beginning of a clip, and you've created two different start points for the remaining clips, and those are the points from which they will expand - you've destroyed all of the timing relationships, and an overlap is inevitable.

 

There is absolutely no reason to do any of this. As I mentioned, the zoom bar at the top of the screen lets you navigate around any size session with ease. Why are you not using that?

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Mar 03, 2020 Mar 03, 2020

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Coming from a video editing background, this actually makes a lot of sense to me, and highlights a couple of Audition's shortcomings:

 

1. In Premiere, you can play your timeline at double-speed while maintaining the pitch, which makes it easy to quickly go through a long piece of audio and still understand what's being said.

2. Another option in Premiere is to change the speed of a selection of clips while ripple editing, so there are no gaps/overlaps afterwards.

 

Because of these shortcomings, my advice to @tsarandrew would be to do your initial edit in Premiere, where the editing functionality is much more robust, and then open your sequence in Audition for the final mix.

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Mar 03, 2020 Mar 03, 2020

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If you hold the CTI at the RHS of the edit panel with the mouse, and move it slightly to the right, you can achieve scrubbing at any speed you can hear at, with pitch-corrected audio. And likewise at the LHS - you can do variable speed reverse scrubbing too. Not only does it speed up, but it can do it slowly, so you can judge edit points very accurately using the facility.

 

And you can change the speed of a selection of clips and perform ripple editing in Audition - that's not the issue. The issue is simply one of what happens when you re-establish them at the correct speed. However you look at it, this is an inappropriate way of editing anything, quite frankly.

 

The editing functionality is no more 'robust' in Premiere - it's just different. And as many podcast users only have a single product licence, encouraging them to use Premiere isn't going to help them very much, is it?

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Mar 03, 2020 Mar 03, 2020

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Very true, Steve - if users only have a single license for Audition, they can definitely make do with that, and I think your suggestion of dragging the CTI is great.

 

Even so, for hour long recordings (or more), keeping your hand on the mouse, finger on the button the whole time seems very manual and laborious to me. I shudder to think of the RSI I'd get from keeping my body in that same position for all the long interviews I've had to scan.

 

It's much easier in Premiere, where simply hitting J/L or Shift+J/L multiple times can get the same result - and then you can just sit back and listen. 

 

I think if Audition added Premiere's 'Maintain Audio Pitch while Shuttling' checkbox to their preferences, it would definitely help.

 

 

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New Here ,
Aug 17, 2023 Aug 17, 2023

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Wow, what a totally rude, condescending, and 100% incorrect response. As mentioned below, there is a simple and easy way to do what OP asked, by highlighting all the clips and dragging the small triangle in the upper right corner of any clip, rather than manually changing the stretch percentage. In the future, perhaps a better solution than insulting people when you don't know what you're talking about is simply to not respond. If you do have information to share, it's generally advisable to not try to make people feel stupid for not knowing what you know. Remember this XKCD comic? https://xkcd.com/1053/

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 08, 2020 Jun 08, 2020

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I was having the same issue and, look! It's possible to go back to 100%.

You have to drag the triangle on the edge of the clip rather than type in "100%" under properties. This saved me having to re-edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5s_pyM3pYA

▶ https://mrc.fm/presets ◀ 🎙 Adobe Audition Presets! 🎧 The audio presets I use. ▶ https://mrc.fm/learn ◀ 🎚 Learn how to master audio production using Audacity or Adobe Audition. 🎤 #Audition #Podcast #PodcastEditing #Tip #WorkFlow 0:00 Tutorial start 0:06 Getting started 0:27 Enable global cli...

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New Here ,
Sep 18, 2020 Sep 18, 2020

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This is a great solution!

 

I was having problems with my clips overlapping which was preventing me from editing at 2x speed. This will save me hours. Thanks for sharing!

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Sep 18, 2020 Sep 18, 2020

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I remember feeling the same sense of relief... glad it helps!

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Nov 16, 2022 Nov 16, 2022

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Wow, a real solution to the problem without being super condescending. This saved my day. Thank you. 

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Aug 17, 2023 Aug 17, 2023

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Try editing the audio first, then stretch/shrink to time.

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